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hey everyone welcome to your ufo hub

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live stream

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today is open lines so it's basically

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what we just

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hang out online and uh for those who are

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interested can call in on telegram

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and share their stories with me um i

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would like to

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get into a topic today uh which is

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what i also wrote up at the title which

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is the the problem with

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audiovisual ufo proof earlier today in

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telegram

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i had posted the picture and the video

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this was sent to me

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uh by somebody that um obviously wanted

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me to take a look at

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not 100 sure if they're kind of

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submitting this as some kind of proof

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you know or or something that you know i

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just don't know what their intention was

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sometimes you know over the years i get

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a lot of of video pictures all kinds of

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things people wanted me to take a look

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at things

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and i and i resisted for the very simple

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is that unless i know uh myself that

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i've recorded it that i've seen it

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um i don't know what the other person's

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attention is

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you know um just recently as we all know

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not saying that this is the

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the all be all way to to validate

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something but if we know for example

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that

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at least from uh like some of the

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pentagon footage was released and the

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pentagon confirmed it that it was

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recorded by them

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at least we can somewhat believe them i

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mean we all know governments lie all the

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time

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but at least for the general public

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public that's good enough

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for the validation that wow this is

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something

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look at when somebody sends things to me

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i don't know what their intentions are

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and i cannot put my full weight behind a

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picture or video

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and and basically just claim wow this is

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the proof this is

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you need to look at this only for it to

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turn out to be a fake

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you know or whatever else you know it

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would be but

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what i don't like and i guess this must

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be one of those days

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is like when people send me stuff that

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you can pretty much find out within five

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minutes whether or not this was debunked

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and then they would still claim this

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is the story this is you know my proof

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and it oftentimes turns out it's not

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even their video it was just forwarded

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to me

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you know so that's a challenge with that

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i mean i know you probably

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heard a version of an argument like this

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you know and um so what i

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wouldn't recommend to people is that i

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understand that

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the way this world works is that we want

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others

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you know to look at what we what we know

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what we have to

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validate it in some way you know but

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very rarely will you meet people that

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say

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i know what i experienced i know what

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i've seen i know that i took this

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footage of my own

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um and if you don't believe me great you

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know it's not gonna

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make a difference in their lives

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whatsoever you know and

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it's almost like that's the kind of

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approach you're going to have to take

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because you can't you know to

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to basically go to the masses

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that majority of them have not

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experienced

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anything ufo related a lot of them don't

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even

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care about anything ufo related yet

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you know it depends on how you know how

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much more prevalent

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the ufo subjects is going to get in the

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public in the public eye in the next

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coming years

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you know but simply gather

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whatever information you have gather it

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for yourself uh keep a collection

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you know make dates uh whatever you

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think is important where the location

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was what time it was

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uh what did you get from it was an

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experience happening to you during that

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time

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and that's the best thing you can

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possibly do until this

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world gets to a point to where they will

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give you the time of day to say

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oh well we had people that have all this

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other stuff can we look at what they

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you know it's just um that right now

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there's so much stuff going on

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that you know like what i did uh i

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um as i don't know i'm sorry i'm kind of

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all over the place today if i mention

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that earlier

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those that picture in that video about

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that is the kind of stuff i'm talking

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about that kind of makes

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life difficult for ufologists that makes

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have had experiences when you have

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you know that one picture you could

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easily trace it back and it was some

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kind of

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art installation that it was designed

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you know and but it's a cool picture you

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know of a

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half man half fish

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whatever that was and just the way it's

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laying there it kind of looks

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looks like it was you know just caught

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you know with some other fish in the net

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or something like that

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and they were just laying out in a tray

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um i think it was some kind of art

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exhibition or statue in japan the um

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you know and then obviously the other um

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you know looks

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very well done you know but i think it's

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the slight tone that that was

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that fake thing for me especially with

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the focusing and the way it's done

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you know it's just you know it's very

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rare that to get

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footage you know like that so anyway

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that's why i can't you know and i really

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you know um want to

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i guess condone anything all i can do if

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i ever show you anything which i would

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hear in a second it would just be for

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information purposes take it or leave it

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i'm not saying i know 100

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you know all i'm saying is that okay

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whatever i'm about to show you

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seems interesting this could be fake

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maybe not i have no idea

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you know but that has to be something

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that that i would ask you to accept from

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this afternoon i was walking and i had

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my camera with me and this is what

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occurred and i was able to record it

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then i can you know i guess basically

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get behind it 100 anytime somebody else

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absolutely have no idea what their

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intentions are like i said

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some have good intentions there's

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that look that is interesting that they

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recorded but others

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is just send these obvious fakes that

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just drive me nuts sometimes

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so anyway i wanted to just cover that

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topic a little bit with you guys just

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as i mentioned today is open line so i

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would encourage you to log on to

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telegram or insta telegram on your phone

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or in your computer

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join the ufo hub group in the

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description there's a direct link to it

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and you should be able to join it and

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you'll see a voice chat going on right

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if you go into that you'll basically be

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able to hear me

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bit delayed but you hear my voice

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talking right now that means you're in

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the group

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and if you raise your hand i can unmute

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you if you're if it's your turn in the

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queue and

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i can talk to you about whatever

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experiences you might have had

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and the topics are open it could be

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whatever ufos go scripted sometimes we

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whatever this has to lead you know i

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really want to constrict it so wherever

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we'll just go with it and i hope that

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it's a journey that you'll you'll enjoy

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as well

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let me see what we have going on so

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okay paul crocker welcome bradley how

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are you

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r3axxx very interesting name

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uh crypto mojito um how are you good to

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see you here

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so yeah it's uh we were just chatting a

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before before things started

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i've only i only

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saw a message and then later on um uh

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ken contacted me

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in in on facebook and messenger under

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the ufo page

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saying that he had some pictures that he

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wanted me to take a look at

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and so um he actually managed to log in

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today to

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to talk and at least this is what it's

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for and i'm hoping that i can connect

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with him at least hear a story

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he has sent me an email with all the

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pictures and the things

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he was he might get into today i don't

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know that

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he could back up but again i don't know

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i need to take a look at it closer

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but there is actually let me switch this

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over real quick

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so what i wanted to show you this was um

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this was this is a channel ran by nathan

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he's also in telegram and this is one of

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these things to where

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i don't know nathan i've haven't met him

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we chatted just a little bit back and

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forth that's about it

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but he sometimes sends me some

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interesting pictures that he i mean

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videos that he often posts on this

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channel so i encourage you at least to

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check it out

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and and go and subscribe so you can see

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i'm subscribed

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and um what was what's really cool

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interesting about this

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is that um he

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let me see if i can

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in about two to at the top right

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corner he mentioned that to me and he

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said to pay close attention to it

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and this was something that it looks

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like may be recorded on the cell phone

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at night and i don't know if i'll ever

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find out some more information about it

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but pay close attention i guess to the

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top right

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so whatever that is that's flying over

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it looks

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pretty cool you know it's very slow you

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know i don't know it could be an

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airplane it could be

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it could be whatever we just don't know

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but it's at least it's something

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interesting that i appreciate him

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sharing

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and i'm not putting that out there is

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some kind of proof or whatever but at

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least

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just check it out if you're into ufology

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it's worth

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the channel here is called uh the thing

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hunter

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and uh so you know i don't know whatever

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else

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uh he plans to uh upload and he probably

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has some more videos out there and

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i think i've watched some other things

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on this channel before so check it out

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subscribe

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if you're into it and i certainly

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appreciate him uh posting it

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on to the telegram group to let us all

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all right so

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okay says camera is sony x night vision

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camera

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all right thanks thanks for that info

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nathan well maybe if you have some time

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if you're actually paying attention

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uh or and can log in if you can log into

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the voice chat and love to chat with you

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about it a little bit

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uh if you can't i understand

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okay simone kinley is in chat hello um

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too far gone from earth hello as well

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fab 22

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welcome man it's and then obviously

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okay let's see if

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if uh can ken if you wanted to to

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log in with me or talk to talk can you

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just uh

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raise your hand so tell me that you're

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ready if not

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okay let's see if it if the audio works

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this time okay you are unmuted

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on my end and mute yourself on your end

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okay okay i can hear you now how are you

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ken

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good good thank you so uh we talked a

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little bit earlier before the show

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and uh i guess just uh please continue

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wherever you would like to start out

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regarding your story

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okay um in 1981 i went to a camp in

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mendocino county california

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called camp mendocino it's a boys and

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girls club camp

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for kids i was a little kid i went on to

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one of these activities at the summer

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camp

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called a 50-mile hike it was an extended

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stay of a hike

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i had we had to wear these big heavy

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backpacks we had all our clothes in it

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you know pots and pans food whatever

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and we set out the first day we walked

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about

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miles at the max

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and we came across the dead deer the

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dead deer had its eye removed half of

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his jaw removed

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and its stomach area was uh there was

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like a little thin membrane holding all

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the guts inside but all the fur

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was removed off the stomach area and um

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well you know kids were all like oh look

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it's a dead deer and the staff members

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were freaking out they were like leave

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alone it's dead

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okay so we kept on walking later that

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night they set up camp you know

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campfire you know sing along

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and you know a couple marshmallows pop

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tarts whatever we

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ate that night later on after that

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we were abducted by um

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extraterrestrials and uh the craft was a

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black

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flower petal pattern craft

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and i received implants

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and i sat at a console

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and later on we were taken to some

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underground cave where i was made to get

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some kind of a

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box cube and well i got the box cube

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needs to say and there were four talls

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tall extraterrestrials and there was a

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smaller one with like an elephant skin

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and well later on we

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came back onto the craft because they

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were wanting to leave and the staff

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members were like come on let's go they

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want us to leave now let's go

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and uh so i sat back down at the console

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we took up

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and i started touching the buttons

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because i had my implants

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i was a part of the collective through

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telepathy i knew every single

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thing about the craft everything and i

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started touching the buttons

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and we were time traveling i looked out

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the window i did not see

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no clouds no sky no ground

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everything was all gray and black it was

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all gray and black outside the little

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window and one of them came from behind

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me

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but i was sitting at the console inside

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of the craft and said there's nothing

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for you to see outside right now

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everything is gone

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nothing exists so inside the craft we

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were a singularity

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onto our own self inside of the craft

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and outside of the craft outside of the

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field nothing existed

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we were time traveling we came

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we came to a stop i jumped out of the

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craft

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i ran through this little town and

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i went to a church i seen that there was

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a building i didn't know it was a church

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at first

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but when i got inside it was a church

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and

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they had in the middle

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of the church and

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come to find out later on in my life

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that i was in

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ancient ancient uh transylvania

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i was recorded and documented

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by the people of the church and by the

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people outside of the church and there's

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a big beautiful picture of

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an extra a ufo

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above the church in transylvania

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1307.

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and the 13 i was in the renaissance era

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and um kind of freaked out people were

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wearing

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these big fluffy neck collar thingies

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and i thought i was seeing goats

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because i never seen people wear stuff

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like that before

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and they were trying to calm me down and

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i spent the night there inside of the

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church

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and the next morning i got back onto the

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craft

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and we were time traveling some more and

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we found ourselves in the second ming

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dynasty in china

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we were recorded and documented inside

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of the ming dynasty with the second

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emperor

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the lady staff member had a wristwatch

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ring a gold

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wristwatch ring you can it was one of

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those 80s rings

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or had a little clock on her ring you

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wear on your finger

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she lost it inside the vault where they

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buried dead people

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and it was recently found

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that vault was sealed

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for like 300 years it's been sealed

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and uh someone found the ring

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the lady staff member's wristwatch ring

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right there you got a nice picture of it

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i'm looking at

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and um well after that

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we were taken to um well actually we

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were dropped off

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in peru at the chacha poyus

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in peru and they called them the cloud

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warriors

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and we were there for a while until the

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neighboring village

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machu picchu came and started killing

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the elders on top of the

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on top of the fortress there

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and um well i didn't like that very much

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i've seen people

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getting killed right in front of me you

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know just a little kid

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and uh well i got the craft came back

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down

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and uh got on it and i went to the we

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went to the neighboring village

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of machu picchu and i destroyed their

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village

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with the weapon system inside of the

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craft

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and then we were taken back even further

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back in time over 10

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000 years before the great flooding of

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earth

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and i'm on recorded on petroglyphs all

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around what is now called america today

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around the four corners area

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utah arizona

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what is it called nevada and um

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there was arizona utah colorado and new

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mexico

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all around the four corners area and i

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also

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physically died before my natural

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childbirth i am capable of taking

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pictures of myself in heaven which i

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have

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extraterrestrials in heaven too

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and i got pictures of me recorded on

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petroglyphs

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i'm also recorded on prophecy rock by

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the hopi

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in arizona i'm recording on prophecy

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rock

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i'm also recorded on a sacred tablet

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just like i'm recorded in china just

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like i'm recorded in peru

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just like i'm recorded in transylvania

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and i have all the pictures of all the

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things that i've been through my life

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00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:03,919
including myself with petroglyphs can i

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ask you

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00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:06,159
some quick questions here so you're

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00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:08,320
saying the whole group

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was taken on board with the with

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everyone who you took this trip with

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00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:16,960
yeah seven of us three boys one little

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blonde girl

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two men staff members and a female staff

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member

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and so you just kind of nonchalantly

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said you just destroyed the village i

539
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:26,400
mean

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where you you said you were a little boy

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00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:29,679
why would you

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00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:35,510
they killed my family right before my

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00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:38,640
face they chopped off their heads

544
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:40,480
i seen people getting murdered right in

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front of me

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00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:45,120
and when i got back onto the craft i

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00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:46,640
went to their village and i destroyed

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00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:48,960
everything i seen

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right and this was um i guess what i'm

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00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:57,760
trying to ask is basically

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00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:00,240
the family killing when did that happen

552
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,720
of your family

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00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:04,799
hundreds of years ago probably even

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00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:06,720
thousands i can't i don't know the

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00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:07,679
timetable

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00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:11,520
on over there in peru because you know

557
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:13,200
they didn't really have a time

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00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,720
they don't really have a time scale over

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00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:16,320
there

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on the cha-cha boy is on top of the

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00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:20,240
mountain so you're saying these

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00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:22,880
uh these beings that they let you pilot

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00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:23,360
the ship

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00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:25,440
also just let you use their device to

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00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:28,400
just destroy the village as well

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00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:36,070
that's who sure did right how do you

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draw the

568
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the connections between some of these

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00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:40,240
pictures that you say you have that

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that's

571
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:45,039
you being depicted way back when

572
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:47,200
well i'm recording on petroglyphs i know

573
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:48,320
where i was

574
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:51,440
who i was with where these things have

575
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:52,640
happened

576
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:56,240
because i was physically there with the

577
00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:57,200
other children

578
00:26:01,350 --> 00:25:59,200
and the other staff members and the

579
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:01,360
elders thousands of years ago and even

580
00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:08,710
with some of the members

581
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:10,720
well no i haven't seen them since i was

582
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:16,310
you know we were just we were made to

583
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:18,080
forget

584
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:20,559
but it was in this that the little girl

585
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:21,760
she didn't really

586
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:24,960
forget because you know something about

587
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:27,919
me and her and the lady staff member is

588
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:29,360
that we kind of knew that something

589
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:30,400
happened to us

590
00:26:33,830 --> 00:26:33,039
but we really didn't know until later on

591
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:33,840
in our lives

592
00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:36,400
when everything started washing off you

593
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:38,000
know the brainwashing that they do to

594
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:38,640
you

595
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:46,720
hypnotizing

596
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:48,880
you know making you forget you know

597
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,559
locked it in your subconscious

598
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:52,799
you know through telepathy and stuff

599
00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:54,880
that eventually wore off

600
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,559
you know it only took about 40 years

601
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:58,799
though are you talking about

602
00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:01,039
the the visitors you're claiming that

603
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:02,000
they

604
00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:05,440
were wiping your memory

605
00:27:11,990 --> 00:27:08,559
yeah yeah

606
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:12,000
so how did you regain him back

607
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:15,760
it took time it took time is

608
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:18,240
a lot of a lot of it's uh from divinity

609
00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:20,320
straight up divinity

610
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:23,200
and because i died before my natural

611
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:25,200
childbirth physically

612
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:27,520
that is a great transcendence to

613
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:29,440
physically die before you're physically

614
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,000
born

615
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:32,320
not a past life experience not an

616
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:33,600
incarnation

617
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:35,440
but with your same two feet and your

618
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:38,080
same two hands you're physically died

619
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:40,000
thousands of years before you were even

620
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:41,440
physically born

621
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:44,159
that's a great transcendence and because

622
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:45,600
i died physically

623
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:48,159
and i went to heaven i'm capable of

624
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,240
taking pictures of myself in heaven and

625
00:27:55,269 --> 00:27:52,000
a lot of my information

626
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:55,279
is coming directly from upstairs heaven

627
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:58,799
itself i fought evil upstairs

628
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:01,279
and i got pictures of me where a lot of

629
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:02,960
these a lot of these pictures are

630
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:04,960
mirrored image

631
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:07,360
it's because it's like a it's like for

632
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,880
instance like you're inside of a fish

633
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:10,240
tank

634
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:11,840
now you want to see outside of the fish

635
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:13,840
tank but you can't really see because

636
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:14,880
the image is

637
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:18,000
distorted it's upside down so everything

638
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:19,360
you see is upside down

639
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:22,080
well if you had a camera and you made it

640
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:23,679
upside right

641
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:25,279
well you're looking at whoever's looking

642
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:27,279
at you but in heaven

643
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:29,440
because it's a different dimension you

644
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:30,559
have to

645
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:34,480
mirror image which is called divinity

646
00:28:41,430 --> 00:28:38,000
divinity is many means more than one

647
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:41,440
you divide it so i'm dividing

648
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:44,240
the picture and there you can see who's

649
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:46,080
looking right at me he's pretty pissed

650
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:47,600
he's also recorded on

651
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:50,880
prophecy rock in arizona and me

652
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:54,000
on the prophecy rock in arizona too

653
00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:56,720
so and there's the other children that i

654
00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:59,919
was with on the top of the prophecy rock

655
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:01,760
if you ever looked at prophecy rock

656
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:03,919
you'll see us hand in hand those are us

657
00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:05,840
kids

658
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:08,320
and that's me have you have you tried uh

659
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:10,240
just kind of creating a website and just

660
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:10,960
kind of

661
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:12,720
telling your story and putting putting

662
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:14,960
up pictures and all that you have and

663
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:15,360
then

664
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:17,200
you know allow people to be able to come

665
00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:19,279
and just visit your page and see what

666
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:21,679
you have to say

667
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:25,760
well i've uh do it on facebook

668
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:29,360
youtube uh twitter

669
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:32,480
and uh here recently tick tock

670
00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:34,240
not that many people are interested in

671
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,399
someone who's actually traveled in time

672
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:38,559
they're more interested in you know

673
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:40,399
boobs and butts and beer

674
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:42,320
and movies and crap like that they're

675
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,240
not they're not interested in

676
00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:46,559
seeing a real extraterrestrial seeing

677
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:49,120
someone who's actually traveled in time

678
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:51,200
and seeing someone who's taking pictures

679
00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:53,120
of themself in heaven

680
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:55,120
you know i'm not seeing anybody else on

681
00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:56,159
the whole world

682
00:30:01,350 --> 00:29:58,559
taking pictures of themselves in heaven

683
00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:01,360
i'm not seeing anybody like that

684
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:03,039
here i am the only one building human

685
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,399
doing it so

686
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,559
that's kind of amazing right there right

687
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:08,240
well i mean most of us have some very

688
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:09,840
extraordinary stories to tell

689
00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:13,279
you know and it's um i know i found it

690
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:15,440
challenging if for my experiences to

691
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:16,480
just kind of

692
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:19,679
draw a picture and connections of

693
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:22,080
where whatever happened wherever it

694
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:22,880
happened

695
00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:25,279
to now you know how to draw that

696
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:26,799
connection because

697
00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:29,600
most people if you say took pictures in

698
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:30,320
heaven

699
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:33,840
a uh etherical place

700
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:36,799
not physical and so when you say you

701
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:38,080
took pictures there

702
00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:40,559
that would imply a physical place so

703
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:42,480
anyway what i'm saying is

704
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:44,399
i don't know i have no idea what you're

705
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:46,000
telling me is true or not you know but

706
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:47,840
i'm here to just at least listen to you

707
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:50,880
and what i want you to basically um you

708
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:51,919
know spend time on

709
00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:54,320
is draw out as much detail as you

710
00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:55,279
possibly can

711
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:57,279
you know i know sometimes for for sake

712
00:31:01,350 --> 00:30:59,039
of time you know people

713
00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:01,360
you know have to hurry up and tell tell

714
00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:02,480
a quick story

715
00:31:06,149 --> 00:31:04,799
but then you know draw draw connection

716
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:06,159
of what was the

717
00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:08,159
what was the whole point of you just

718
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:09,919
going to these different places for the

719
00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:17,430
well basically um you know

720
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:20,720
i sat at the console you know

721
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:24,080
and i was one of the kids you know and i

722
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:25,360
didn't want to really

723
00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:27,279
sit in the cubicle that everybody else

724
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:29,120
was being susceptible to set into

725
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:31,279
i was being stubborn and i set my butt

726
00:31:35,830 --> 00:31:32,640
at the cone slope

727
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:35,840
and since i had the implants

728
00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:37,600
i became a part of the collective inside

729
00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:39,200
the inside of the craft

730
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:41,840
the ufo when i was driving it i was

731
00:31:43,909 --> 00:31:42,399
driving

732
00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:43,919
how to operate it is that what you're

733
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:45,440
saying yeah

734
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:47,279
yeah i knew everything about how to open

735
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:48,799
up the door how to use the weapon

736
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:49,919
systems

737
00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:52,960
how to land a craft everything i was

738
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:56,159
flying a ufo and i was just a little kid

739
00:31:59,190 --> 00:31:58,399
you know and these things have actually

740
00:32:01,350 --> 00:31:59,200
happened

741
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:01,360
i mean and i want to get touched a

742
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:02,320
little quick on

743
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:05,120
the heaven thing sure people got a big

744
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:07,279
misconception about what heaven actually

745
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:12,549
uh heaven is isn't anything what they're

746
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:14,000
thinking of

747
00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:17,679
heaven is basically when you go outside

748
00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:19,039
and you look up

749
00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:21,919
the clouds that's heaven we become a

750
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:24,480
part of the environment we become

751
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:28,080
what you people call today clouds

752
00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:29,679
and that's what the elders knew

753
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:31,279
thousands of years ago

754
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:32,960
and i still hold this knowledge and i've

755
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:34,799
been taking pictures of myself

756
00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:42,149
it's not clouds we become a part of the

757
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:43,919
environment and we reciprocate

758
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:45,679
and we give you all something to drink

759
00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:47,760
to stay alive called water

760
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:50,720
you're actually drinking us you're

761
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:51,519
drinking us

762
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:55,440
you're drinking your elders water

763
00:32:59,430 --> 00:32:57,200
it's all connected and i have pictures

764
00:33:02,230 --> 00:32:59,440
of extraterrestrials in heaven

765
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:02,240
whatever dies here goes up into the

766
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:03,840
environment and becomes a part of

767
00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:05,039
everything

768
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:06,880
i got pictures of extraterrestrials in

769
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:09,919
heaven because they also died here too

770
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:10,559
so ken

771
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:12,320
um i'm just looking through some of the

772
00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:13,600
comments and hazel

773
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:16,720
hazel was asking if you you know could

774
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:18,320
do you have a location where people

775
00:33:20,710 --> 00:33:19,679
could go and look at some of those

776
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:20,720
pictures if you can

777
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:23,279
give give a give an address whether it's

778
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,960
facebook or website or anything like

779
00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:26,559
that

780
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:33,430
it's on youtube facebook um

781
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:36,640
did you just do a search question well

782
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:38,080
is there is there a specific link

783
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:41,120
because sometimes it might be

784
00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:44,720
kenneth pass p-a-s-s

785
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:48,399
like pass me the fried chicken no okay

786
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:51,279
and uh i guess uh was what did what

787
00:33:57,750 --> 00:33:52,080
would the profile

788
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,630
right let me see here

789
00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:06,230
at least

790
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:09,359
because there's no one else that

791
00:34:15,349 --> 00:34:12,000
that was wanting to chat so i will try

792
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:17,430
yeah i mean it's like you know it's like

793
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:20,000
hi guys i traveled in time

794
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:29,030
uh it was a child of an angel

795
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:33,280
is it can this kenneth pass as a child

796
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,480
yeah yeah that's me and you know i got

797
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:38,399
pictures of myself in heaven i got all

798
00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:40,000
these incredible pictures

799
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:42,159
and then i'm surprised that it's not all

800
00:34:45,990 --> 00:34:43,679
over the news media

801
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:46,000
but you'll be you'll be you'll be

802
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:48,399
surprised at how actually hard it is

803
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:50,240
to get my type of information out

804
00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:51,839
anywhere because

805
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,599
people really they're not that really

806
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:55,440
interested in it i mean they they want

807
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:56,240
to see

808
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:01,520
the ufo

809
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:03,920
i mean what's better picture of an

810
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:05,200
extraterrestrial a real

811
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:07,680
extraterrestrial or a picture of a ufo

812
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:09,280
that you can hardly see in the sky

813
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:12,640
i mean you know what can i know kenneth

814
00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:14,160
but sometimes you know you can't

815
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:15,599
when people don't want to look at things

816
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,880
they don't want to look at stuff i know

817
00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:18,079
it's frustrating and

818
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:21,359
and we always want to be uh want others

819
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:22,560
to pay attention but

820
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:24,560
i'm on your page right now and i'm kind

821
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:26,000
of scrolling through

822
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:28,240
is there some of these slideshows that

823
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:29,760
you put in is that what you're referring

824
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:30,160
to

825
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:36,160
just go ahead and look at the pictures

826
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:38,400
if you can see this you can check it out

827
00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:39,200
yourself i

828
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:46,230
to to the page to give you an idea

829
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:48,640
of of how to find them than if this is

830
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:50,079
the correct

831
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:56,390
okay do you have any other direct

832
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:57,920
pictures let me see do you have just

833
00:36:01,589 --> 00:35:59,599
photos that i can go to

834
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:01,599
yeah there's photos yeah just look at

835
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:03,280
the photo department

836
00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:06,480
in the profile you know if you're on

837
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:08,400
facebook just go ahead and look at the

838
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:13,200
photographs and

839
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:14,720
right and what did you say these

840
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:16,640
reflection these um

841
00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:19,680
what is this one picture of the craft

842
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:23,119
the craft i helped drive all through

843
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:26,560
history and what is the the the mirror

844
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:29,839
images can you explain this again

845
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:32,240
okay because i died before my natural

846
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:32,960
childbirth

847
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:35,119
i know how to see heaven because i

848
00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:36,960
became a part of it i got pictures of

849
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:38,839
myself in heaven

850
00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:41,760
heaven is not what like everybody thinks

851
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:43,680
it's not like you know what's all

852
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:45,520
written in the bible and what people see

853
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:46,160
on tv

854
00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:49,280
no no you go outside you look up you see

855
00:36:53,829 --> 00:36:50,480
that cloud right there

856
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:53,839
that's heaven we become a part of the

857
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:54,960
environment we become

858
00:37:02,710 --> 00:36:58,400
clouds we are not just

859
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:02,720
faces in the clouds you know

860
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:05,520
so i know how to see because i'm part of

861
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:07,760
i'm part of the divinity

862
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:10,079
i got pictures of myself in heaven and i

863
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:11,839
have to mirror image

864
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:14,880
because i can see perfectly

865
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:16,240
but all of you would have to see a

866
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:17,680
mirrored image because you couldn't see

867
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:18,400
anything

868
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:21,280
but when i do that you'll be like oh my

869
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:23,760
gosh man look at all these demons

870
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:25,839
look at look at that that's the devil

871
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,880
and you see me

872
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:28,320
sitting right next to him confronting

873
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:30,480
him and i'm on the ground taking the

874
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:31,839
ultimate selfie

875
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:34,880
of myself in heaven myself on the earth

876
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:38,560
confronting the devil himself now i know

877
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:40,880
nobody who has pictures like i do and

878
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:42,320
i've looked for the last

879
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:45,119
seven years i ain't seen nobody on earth

880
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:46,960
no one with pictures like mine

881
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:49,359
so i'm the only one and that's how i

882
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,560
that's how everybody knows

883
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:52,640
i'm legit because you don't see pictures

884
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:54,320
like mine off the internet

885
00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:57,440
mine or not cgi mine are not fake not

886
00:38:02,829 --> 00:37:58,720
drawings

887
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:02,839
not anything just real raw

888
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:05,520
divinity right well kenneth again you

889
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:06,640
can see what i'm trying to see

890
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:08,560
so this drawing how do you know that

891
00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:10,560
this is you well

892
00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:12,560
i mean besides you saying that's me

893
00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:13,920
because i was there

894
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:16,800
i was there even when the others

895
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:18,000
recorded it

896
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:20,000
it's like that's how did you find these

897
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:22,240
online or did you go to this location to

898
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:24,240
take the picture

899
00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:27,359
i went to the locations i'm there i'm i

900
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,359
got pictures of where i'm standing next

901
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:31,200
to my own self recorded over ten

902
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:32,960
thousand years ago on a petroglyph

903
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:36,240
i'm a living petroglyph i'm also

904
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:38,560
recording on prophecy rock

905
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:41,599
with the other children hikers

906
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:43,280
we didn't have cameras ten thousand

907
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:45,200
years ago

908
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:47,920
we just had and then here on these lands

909
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:48,880
you either grab

910
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:50,320
you grab something off the ground and

911
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,400
you start chiseling into the rock

912
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:54,240
and write your story on rock or you're

913
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:56,000
not going to have anybody know who you

914
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:57,839
are

915
00:39:01,270 --> 00:39:00,480
you know and i know exactly what go

916
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:01,280
ahead

917
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:03,040
i just want to ask you one of the other

918
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:04,480
questions who are they

919
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:06,880
like uh can you describe these these

920
00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:07,599
beings

921
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:11,200
that were on the ship yeah um

922
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:13,520
a lot of them well they're the they're

923
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:14,720
the grays

924
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:17,520
and there's another part of the family

925
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:19,200
that's living on another

926
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:21,760
you know in the orion system because

927
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,040
they marked me

928
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:25,760
with some kind of like a penguin device

929
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:27,359
like it looks like a little pen

930
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:29,839
wand it's like a magic wand but it's not

931
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:32,160
and it was burning into my flesh

932
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:34,000
and i thought i was smelling bacon they

933
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:35,520
burned the

934
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:38,720
star system of orion on my right side

935
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:42,240
i got the they put that on me themselves

936
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:45,520
so they're from orion

937
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:49,200
and a lot of them live underground

938
00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:51,119
they've always been here so when i hear

939
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:52,320
people say

940
00:39:55,589 --> 00:39:55,119
well these things have just landed it'll

941
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:55,599
be

942
00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:58,640
here first time

943
00:40:02,230 --> 00:40:01,119
aliens have ever been here and i'm like

944
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:02,240
oh really

945
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:03,920
well i guess you don't know me because

946
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:05,280
i've been time traveling all through

947
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,280
history and i know they live underground

948
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:09,280
they've been living underground for a

949
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:12,400
very very long time

950
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:15,520
so i know when people are lying right

951
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:16,960
away and i know when people don't know

952
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:19,040
what they're talking about because

953
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:21,920
i got to drive a ufo i got to travel all

954
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:23,040
through history

955
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:25,119
with them they're actually really good

956
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:26,400
people they just

957
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:28,720
you know we got it we've got it really

958
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:30,880
good and we're destroying the planet

959
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,240
which really sucks and

960
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:34,319
to me it's irritating it's all hell

961
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:35,440
watching all of you

962
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:36,960
don't know your ass from a hole in the

963
00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:39,440
ground because you're just making a mess

964
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:41,440
of everything and you really don't want

965
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:43,119
to pay attention and learn

966
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,880
because if you did learn if you learn

967
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:46,560
from someone like me who has the proof

968
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:47,359
of things

969
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:50,480
you can see a whole lot more and it's

970
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,480
amazing it's beautiful but

971
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:54,480
all i see on tv is destruction people

972
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:55,680
blowing [\h__\h] up

973
00:41:01,910 --> 00:40:58,720
drugs you know crazy crap

974
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:01,920
well kenneth wha what else um

975
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:04,160
did you take away from that are you

976
00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:06,079
still continuing these contacts to this

977
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:07,839
day

978
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:10,880
yeah i mean they'll come and go you know

979
00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:12,960
it's just weird because sometimes you'll

980
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:14,079
be like well

981
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:16,319
am i dreaming this or am i wide awake

982
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:17,280
and they're like

983
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:20,079
you're right awake it's just that uh

984
00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,599
we're not gonna really let you see

985
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:23,280
what's going on around you

986
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:26,640
but uh just stay still you know and uh

987
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:29,440
listen to our instructions and basically

988
00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:29,920
you know

989
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:32,720
you're sitting down in a school behind a

990
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:33,520
desk

991
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:36,800
kind of like in a theater and uh

992
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,480
you're watching stuff that they have to

993
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:39,839
show everybody

994
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:44,240
so i get to i get the just of that too

995
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:47,520
you know can

996
00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:49,440
did you uh the story to any family

997
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:51,440
members do you have any family members

998
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:54,319
that know about this yeah a lot of them

999
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:56,000
don't like them over here because i have

1000
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:57,839
all my proof all over the walls of my

1001
00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:00,079
living room

1002
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:02,160
so when you're coming through the door

1003
00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:03,920
you're seeing real pictures of me

1004
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:04,920
standing next to

1005
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:07,359
extraterrestrials and they kind of they

1006
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:09,200
kind of don't like it because

1007
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:12,160
you know it disturbs their it disturbs

1008
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:13,680
their reality

1009
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:16,400
it disturbs their fantasy of the reality

1010
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:17,680
that they grew up with

1011
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:20,319
you know what i mean right it gives them

1012
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:21,920
a real

1013
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:25,200
real real reality instead of the fake tv

1014
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:26,640
[\h__\h] that you see all the time on the

1015
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:27,359
news

1016
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:30,400
or on the youtube or whatever you know

1017
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:32,480
the movies well ken while we were

1018
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:34,160
talking you know i was able to find your

1019
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:34,800
page and

1020
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,119
those watching uh if they're interested

1021
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:39,440
they can go and check it out there so

1022
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:42,240
maybe this time you know you'll have

1023
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:43,440
some people that understand

1024
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:45,920
more and could potentially get in touch

1025
00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:47,839
with you regarding your pictures

1026
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:50,079
yeah because i just honestly you can i

1027
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:50,880
just don't know

1028
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,880
i personally don't know all i can do is

1029
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:54,400
just listen to you and i appreciate you

1030
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:56,560
sharing your story

1031
00:43:01,109 --> 00:42:59,040
yeah i mean it it takes more than five

1032
00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:01,119
minutes to fully understand i mean

1033
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:03,680
the greatest of the greatest of uh field

1034
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:05,200
investigators couldn't understand the

1035
00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:06,640
information that i have

1036
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:08,400
in five minutes it'll take a lot longer

1037
00:43:11,910 --> 00:43:09,680
than that but yeah uh

1038
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,920
information requests what you were

1039
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:13,440
talking about time travel or

1040
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:18,470
what i've been through in my life with

1041
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:19,839
the whole thing with all the proof and

1042
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:21,200
all the photographs

1043
00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:22,960
you know it would take them more than

1044
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:25,119
five minutes you know

1045
00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:27,119
right but um if they want if they want

1046
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:28,480
to see kenneth

1047
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:32,160
pass p-a-s-s on facebook

1048
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:35,599
kenneth pass on youtube and

1049
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:39,200
on uh tick tock

1050
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:47,750
right well ken um well i appreciate you

1051
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:49,440
i appreciate you very much for for

1052
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:55,990
yeah definitely all right well yeah

1053
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:58,160
um hopefully hopefully some sometime in

1054
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:59,119
the future you know

1055
00:44:02,309 --> 00:44:01,359
let me know if anything else came about

1056
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:02,319
if there's

1057
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:04,560
some other collaboration that might have

1058
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:06,480
occurred

1059
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:09,440
yeah definitely we'll keep in touch okay

1060
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:12,240
all right thank you ken i appreciate it

1061
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,470
um oh yeah uh rick i'm wondering if

1062
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:22,079
you're if you're hearing this

1063
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:24,480
if you can come on i know you're not

1064
00:44:27,190 --> 00:44:26,480
expecting to but i wanted to talk to you

1065
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:27,200
about

1066
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:33,670
if you can raise your hand that way i

1067
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:36,480
know you're listening okay good deal

1068
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:40,079
so um yeah you can unmute yourself

1069
00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:43,280
so tomorrow um i have a

1070
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:46,960
premiere scheduled at 7 00 p.m

1071
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:50,079
and so it's it's basically pre-recorded

1072
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:52,720
uh what it's basically the psychedelic

1073
00:44:58,710 --> 00:44:55,440
experiences that we tried to

1074
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,720
to um basically um

1075
00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:00,800
stream live but there were some sinking

1076
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:03,440
issues uh our voice and audio was way

1077
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:04,160
off and

1078
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,839
watching that live just gets really

1079
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:07,920
weird so

1080
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:10,560
we plus the original connection was cut

1081
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:12,240
off when i tried to restart it and it

1082
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:13,440
started somewhere else so

1083
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:15,599
we lost some people watching anyway i

1084
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:17,680
had all that recorded

1085
00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:21,040
here locally and so i edited the whole

1086
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:22,000
thing together

1087
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:24,240
put it together and it will basically

1088
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:25,280
then be

1089
00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:29,200
reposted tomorrow and so it's not live

1090
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:31,359
but because of this premiere option that

1091
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:32,480
youtube allows

1092
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:35,359
it's going to play as if it were if it

1093
00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:38,319
as if it is live and i should be on chat

1094
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:41,839
um basically just talking uh and

1095
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:43,760
first time actually just have time to

1096
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:46,079
chat with with all of you that are uh

1097
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:47,200
tuning in

1098
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:49,760
and um rick i don't know if you might

1099
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:51,440
have some time but

1100
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:52,880
you know if there's any questions or

1101
00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:55,920
something to possibly answer tomorrow

1102
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:58,160
over chat but i know it is so tedious to

1103
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:00,000
do and i don't expect you to if you

1104
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:02,160
if you can't because i don't know that i

1105
00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:03,680
will either because there's there's a

1106
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,400
lot

1107
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:06,880
you know having to write back and do

1108
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:08,960
that and all chat when everyone else is

1109
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:09,280
chat

1110
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:14,790
sure no i'm i'll be around tomorrow so

1111
00:46:18,550 --> 00:46:16,160
i'll just be sure to be

1112
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:18,560
on the call and it should be good well

1113
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:20,160
it's there's not going to be a call

1114
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:22,720
i just it's basically just going to be

1115
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:23,680
online

1116
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:26,800
and it will be the the

1117
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:29,359
the chat room itself or next to the

1118
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,079
video on youtube

1119
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:34,400
sure no i'll be around for that yeah i'm

1120
00:46:36,950 --> 00:46:35,680
not streaming tomorrow

1121
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:36,960
it's just i guess with the youtube

1122
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:38,800
premiere it creates the illusion that

1123
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:39,359
it's

1124
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:42,800
was recorded last time

1125
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:45,040
and then i've been trying my best to

1126
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:47,119
work out some of these syncing issues

1127
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:50,160
uh so right now i'm still in sync and

1128
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:52,000
works out great but when i have

1129
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:54,960
telegram open and then skype open and

1130
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:55,280
then

1131
00:47:01,910 --> 00:46:59,359
in all these

1132
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:01,920
these inputs and streaming it out and

1133
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:04,160
then having skype and telegram talk to

1134
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,880
each other

1135
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:06,960
i think it's maxing out my system and

1136
00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:08,400
then at some point it just

1137
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:10,319
does a little glitch and most of the

1138
00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:12,160
time the skype is off

1139
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:14,240
and so it drives me nuts not being able

1140
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:15,839
to give you guys

1141
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:19,440
the best possible um uh product that i

1142
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:20,319
can

1143
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:22,240
at least i mean if the i'd rather have

1144
00:47:26,549 --> 00:47:24,240
lower quality of some sort

1145
00:47:28,549 --> 00:47:26,559
instead of audio and video being off

1146
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:28,559
sync when you have to watch the guests

1147
00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:30,880
because it's very distracting

1148
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:34,000
but i've been trying my best to to see

1149
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:34,880
if i can

1150
00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:38,400
get this um you know get get things

1151
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:39,359
changed i'm

1152
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:41,359
i don't know if some of you were here

1153
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:43,280
logged in basically

1154
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:46,319
um my boss aka my wife approved

1155
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:49,359
a new machine that's you know it's gonna

1156
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:50,640
cost a pretty penny

1157
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:54,160
but i'm hoping that with a higher core

1158
00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:54,720
count

1159
00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:57,599
on the processor and way much better

1160
00:48:01,990 --> 00:47:58,559
graphics card

1161
00:48:07,109 --> 00:48:05,430
should be able to get you guys a machine

1162
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:07,119
that can handle all of that

1163
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:08,800
because i want i want you guys to be

1164
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:10,319
able to interact with the guest

1165
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:12,400
and ask questions and talk because i

1166
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:13,359
know rick

1167
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:15,200
rick you were able to log in and talk to

1168
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:17,680
george when he was on

1169
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,710
break are you there

1170
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:32,829
hear me yes can you follow me yeah

1171
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:41,270
i mean hold on

1172
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:48,000
you sound you sound like a robot now

1173
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:51,680
hello hello hello

1174
00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:58,710
okay i don't know what's happening um i

1175
00:49:01,030 --> 00:49:00,160
mean i'm not using a headset i'm on my

1176
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:01,040
phone and i'm next to

1177
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,640
right next to the wi-fi units i don't

1178
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:04,559
know what's going on okay you're better

1179
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:05,680
now yeah i know you're coming through

1180
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:06,880
all right i said you were able to at

1181
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:09,520
least talk to george and how how did you

1182
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:11,680
you know i'm i'm hoping that that's

1183
00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:13,280
something you like doing

1184
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:15,680
being able for me being able to set that

1185
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:20,069
i mean for me it was really cool i mean

1186
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:21,760
because i mean i mean i haven't like

1187
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:22,800
listened to

1188
00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:24,960
george you know religiously but you know

1189
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:26,160
i know his show i've listened to it

1190
00:49:28,950 --> 00:49:27,520
before and it was just like

1191
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,960
really i didn't ever think i would ever

1192
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:30,400
have a chance to ask him a question

1193
00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:32,160
right on so it was like crazy to like

1194
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:34,079
hear him talking to me and like like

1195
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:36,079
addressing me by name like oh my god

1196
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,760
um but not only that to be able to ask

1197
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:39,680
him a question it was really it was

1198
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:41,119
pretty cool i was a little nervous i

1199
00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:42,559
gotta admit

1200
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:44,960
right you know that's you know i don't

1201
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:45,760
know i just want

1202
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:47,680
wanted you know at least your feedback

1203
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:49,440
because i know you were just recently on

1204
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:50,640
and using that because

1205
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:53,280
not a lot of people on telegram take the

1206
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:53,839
take the

1207
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:56,640
opportunity to actually be on telegram

1208
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:58,559
and be able to ask the question

1209
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:01,440
directly um you know we have the the

1210
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:02,160
usual

1211
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:04,079
suspects bradley it's always done i

1212
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:05,599
appreciate it you know love chatting

1213
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,040
with them and keeps me

1214
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:09,599
up to date of what's happening and south

1215
00:50:12,069 --> 00:50:10,559
africa and

1216
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:12,079
you know from what he was telling me

1217
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:13,520
earlier things are getting better and

1218
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:14,559
better

1219
00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:17,680
and of course you know um there's hazel

1220
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:19,599
hi hazel i never got to

1221
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:26,790
i guess it's on twitch so i'm glad i

1222
00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:27,680
have

1223
00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:31,520
a twitch watcher as well yeah twitch i

1224
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:33,520
love twitch stream much better for some

1225
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:34,960
reason youtube doesn't give me the

1226
00:50:40,630 --> 00:50:37,520
bandwidth so it really looks

1227
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:40,640
crappy live streaming on on youtube but

1228
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:41,839
on twitch it's like

1229
00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:44,400
real nice and crisp so i don't know what

1230
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:46,079
they're doing differently than youtube

1231
00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:46,720
but

1232
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:50,480
i guess they they give a lot more

1233
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:52,880
resources i guess to to their streamers

1234
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:59,349
uh

1235
00:50:59,359 --> 00:51:06,150
jule jackson hello how are you

1236
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:09,270
oh well thank you jewel jewel says

1237
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:10,720
you are a good host you allow your

1238
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:12,480
guests to express themselves without

1239
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:14,480
judgment that's rare thank you

1240
00:51:20,309 --> 00:51:17,680
well thank you i appreciate it i try um

1241
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:20,319
because i know of my own life some of

1242
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:21,280
these things if

1243
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:23,599
if i haven't experienced them i wouldn't

1244
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:24,960
believe it myself

1245
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:28,079
so i just i just never know what

1246
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:31,760
what someone is telling me um

1247
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:34,319
you know the only thing i guess the

1248
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:36,480
possibility of all these crazy things

1249
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:37,040
happening

1250
00:51:40,549 --> 00:51:38,880
is there you know the only difference is

1251
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:40,559
whether or not that's an

1252
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:43,359
honest storytelling or made up that's

1253
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:45,920
the only thing that

1254
00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:47,839
that i hope people come from you know

1255
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:49,760
from the truth aspect to say hey this

1256
00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:51,040
really happened to me

1257
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:53,760
because um some of the things that are

1258
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:54,880
out there

1259
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:57,599
people are you know just still are not

1260
00:52:03,270 --> 00:51:59,920
that aware of what's possible

1261
00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:03,280
and it took it takes you know takes a

1262
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:04,240
long time

1263
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:07,680
just to you know to even get in the idea

1264
00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:09,359
that extraterrestrials exist

1265
00:52:15,510 --> 00:52:12,559
not to mention to let's say be on a ship

1266
00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:15,520
flying and doing all these things that

1267
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:16,319
the people as

1268
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:19,680
often reported they do and so

1269
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:21,680
again i don't know but at least i hope

1270
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:23,280
like i've always said that this can just

1271
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:24,000
be a

1272
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:28,000
some kind of library of information or

1273
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:30,240
for you to at least hear it and just

1274
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:31,680
keep it on the back of your mind

1275
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:33,520
so if and when it ever happens in your

1276
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:35,200
lives you'll know oh

1277
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:37,440
i know this at this you know i have a

1278
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:38,720
reference point now

1279
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:40,559
you know as opposed to just being

1280
00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:42,160
dumbfounded and being exposed to

1281
00:52:45,109 --> 00:52:43,839
something for the very first time

1282
00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:45,119
not that there's anything wrong with

1283
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,359
that but you know if you're already

1284
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:48,960
gonna spend the time to listen

1285
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:51,200
to let's say my show or some other show

1286
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:52,480
i'm hoping that

1287
00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:54,319
you know you you will learn about

1288
00:53:02,710 --> 00:52:56,319
something new you know no matter how

1289
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:05,990
uh hazel is asking is it possible to ask

1290
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:08,000
the question i mentioned to you via

1291
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:08,880
email

1292
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:12,319
uh it just popped into my head yes hazel

1293
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:21,990
uh hazel contacted me through email and

1294
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:22,480
um

1295
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,319
if i remember it correctly was a

1296
00:53:29,670 --> 00:53:26,480
question it's funny how you

1297
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:29,680
you you um you phrased it because you

1298
00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:31,920
were trying to be careful and not to

1299
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:33,520
you know trying to be all politically

1300
00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:35,359
correct and you know i'm not pc

1301
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,079
whatsoever

1302
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:38,400
i absolutely hate that crap so whatever

1303
00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:39,280
is on your mind

1304
00:53:42,549 --> 00:53:41,760
for anyone watching just laid out you

1305
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:42,559
know i'm not

1306
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:45,839
i know most of the time where

1307
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:47,920
where a question is coming from whether

1308
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:49,599
it's from a good heart or

1309
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:51,440
more in your ill intent i've been on

1310
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:53,040
this planet long enough for me to be

1311
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:54,480
able to discern it whether it's in

1312
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:55,760
person or text

1313
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:57,839
but the question from her specifically

1314
00:54:02,790 --> 00:53:59,520
was um

1315
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:02,800
if there's any stories or any accounts

1316
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:06,720
of let's say if i'm not mistaken i'm

1317
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:08,559
just trying to remember exactly what she

1318
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:09,119
said

1319
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:11,280
of like really obese people being

1320
00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:12,319
abducted

1321
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:15,839
or um mentally

1322
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:18,240
[\h__\h] people being abducted you know

1323
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:19,440
or you know

1324
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:23,040
people that that um generally

1325
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,880
don't express themselves in this in the

1326
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,240
same way that we do

1327
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:28,079
that usually would need some kind of

1328
00:54:31,589 --> 00:54:29,359
help um

1329
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:31,599
at some you know some facility and

1330
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:33,680
whatnot and she was asking if

1331
00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:36,240
if there's you know if i knew what i was

1332
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:38,240
what i meant and if i could speak on

1333
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:40,720
that and so

1334
00:54:45,030 --> 00:54:43,040
to be honest some kind of mental

1335
00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:45,040
handicap i've never heard of

1336
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:47,599
an abduction in that way maybe there is

1337
00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:48,720
one out there

1338
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:52,319
i just don't know but um

1339
00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:55,200
so a weight i don't know that weight

1340
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:56,319
would matter

1341
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,960
you know because i'm pretty big on

1342
00:55:02,950 --> 00:54:59,760
myself

1343
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:02,960
and i've never physically been

1344
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:05,760
on these different different ships you

1345
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:06,640
know or

1346
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:08,720
these different locations but i've known

1347
00:55:12,470 --> 00:55:09,680
people that were

1348
00:55:13,829 --> 00:55:12,480
right about my weight you know and they

1349
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:13,839
were

1350
00:55:18,789 --> 00:55:17,200
you know 250 350 pounds

1351
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:18,799
and i don't know what that makes it into

1352
00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:21,440
kilos but they were claiming to be in

1353
00:55:25,829 --> 00:55:23,440
contact they were claiming to be

1354
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:25,839
you know abducted and or contacted and

1355
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:27,359
interacting so

1356
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:30,720
i don't know that weight and

1357
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:34,400
i guess being obese would

1358
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:36,960
would come into play maybe if you if you

1359
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:39,119
were absolutely obese like 600

1360
00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:42,160
500 pounds and you can you can't move

1361
00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:45,440
maybe maybe there might be a bit bit of

1362
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:48,640
a challenge just to

1363
00:55:53,589 --> 00:55:51,839
i guess to i don't know to to

1364
00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:53,599
move around because i know a lot of the

1365
00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:55,839
abduction stories often talk about that

1366
00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:56,319
these

1367
00:56:02,230 --> 00:55:59,599
um people that are abducted are

1368
00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:02,240
being moved by these beings themselves

1369
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,599
so i'm sure they would have some kind of

1370
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:05,359
technology where weight doesn't matter

1371
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:06,160
to where

1372
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:08,240
you know you would be light as a wet

1373
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:09,760
feather and being able to move you

1374
00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:11,520
around wherever they need to

1375
00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:15,520
but um yeah extremely obese i've never

1376
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:16,880
heard that but i've known

1377
00:56:20,870 --> 00:56:19,119
of people that were at least within the

1378
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:20,880
300 pounds range

1379
00:56:28,829 --> 00:56:24,799
300 plus pound range and had contact

1380
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:30,470
question

1381
00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:33,920
right or hand some kind of handicap too

1382
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:37,119
that i don't know you know maybe if i'll

1383
00:56:40,870 --> 00:56:39,599
keep an eye out in the air out if i ever

1384
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:40,880
know or hear about

1385
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:42,480
something like that i'll let you know

1386
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:44,960
hazel or everyone else watching it's

1387
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:46,400
i mean it's curious you know if there's

1388
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:49,839
some kind of i mean dna

1389
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:52,640
at the end of the day is just you know

1390
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,799
dna so it's not

1391
00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:56,559
you can pretty much extract it from

1392
00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:58,160
anybody you don't

1393
00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:01,119
unless unless there's the part of the

1394
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,119
dna that's actually causing

1395
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:05,680
this physical handicap that might

1396
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:07,359
actually be a

1397
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:10,559
a problem or maybe not so much of a

1398
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:14,480
desired dna strain i guess for whatever

1399
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:17,280
for whatever um hybridization program is

1400
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:18,640
being used for

1401
00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:21,680
but some of you who have might have

1402
00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:22,400
logged in

1403
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:25,680
i've when i when i talked to

1404
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:28,240
brad johnson he channels the jonas and i

1405
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:29,920
found out interestingly enough then

1406
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:31,920
august 31st he's not going to be

1407
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:33,839
channeling at jonas anymore

1408
00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:35,760
and so maybe i'll try to get him before

1409
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:37,440
august 1st to see if he would

1410
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:40,000
want to come back to china jonas one

1411
00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:41,920
last time here on ufo hub

1412
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:45,599
but he was talking about

1413
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:48,720
also and i've heard this before that the

1414
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:50,960
the abduction program has actually has

1415
00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:51,839
concluded

1416
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:54,720
that it's done and been done with for

1417
00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:55,920
for quite a while

1418
00:58:03,829 --> 00:57:59,200
and so that um i think maybe

1419
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:03,839
90s as far as early early teens

1420
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:07,440
um you know 2000 the period between 2000

1421
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:11,359
2010 maybe maybe earlier in that decade

1422
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:14,880
um that it's basically just concluded

1423
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:18,079
and they're what they're on up to now i

1424
00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:18,400
have

1425
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:26,720
enough time to

1426
00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:29,440
publish a webcast i did with uh reed

1427
00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:30,319
summers

1428
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:33,920
uh um

1429
00:58:38,069 --> 00:58:36,480
he's the they both kind of work on this

1430
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:38,079
project together but

1431
00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:40,799
they marshall summers uh came came out

1432
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:43,040
with the allies of humanity

1433
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:46,319
uh books and um so it's kind of

1434
00:58:50,309 --> 00:58:47,920
interesting listening to him and his

1435
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:50,319
perspective about

1436
00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:53,440
that it has more of a more of a caution

1437
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,559
to regarding contact than

1438
00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:58,720
than the general story out there and

1439
00:59:01,109 --> 00:59:00,160
because i don't consider myself a

1440
00:59:03,589 --> 00:59:01,119
gatekeeper

1441
00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:03,599
of information i want you to have both

1442
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,400
sides

1443
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:06,960
you know the good and the bad you know

1444
00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:07,680
out there

1445
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:10,720
i will i will interview you know

1446
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:13,520
whoever you know i deem has enough

1447
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:15,520
information that they can express it

1448
00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:17,359
and then give you more background

1449
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:19,200
information where you can then go up and

1450
00:59:22,789 --> 00:59:21,119
look look up some of this information

1451
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:22,799
yourself

1452
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:26,480
so um yeah because i don't

1453
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:29,040
i mean there was there was quite a bit

1454
00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:31,119
that i didn't agree with them on

1455
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:32,880
but there wasn't a point it's not about

1456
00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:34,240
me it's just about

1457
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:36,400
them getting getting the information to

1458
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:38,079
you and i'm hoping that you can discern

1459
00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:39,119
things for yourself

1460
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:42,079
and and just take in the info and and

1461
00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:53,510
okay

1462
00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:56,789
uh donna topez she's on facebook

1463
01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:59,760
says i've heard of prisoners being

1464
01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:00,400
abducted

1465
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:07,589
structured life but who can

1466
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:09,760
who can they tell without sounding like

1467
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:12,160
a crazy liar

1468
01:00:17,589 --> 01:00:14,319
yeah i've i've never heard that either

1469
01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:20,950
um about prisoners but then again

1470
01:00:24,309 --> 01:00:23,599
you never know there's there's no

1471
01:00:27,349 --> 01:00:24,319
limitation

1472
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:27,359
if they can come through walls go any

1473
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:29,040
location any place anywhere in the

1474
01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:30,000
universe

1475
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:32,079
you know prison is not going to be that

1476
01:00:37,750 --> 01:00:34,559
much difficult

1477
01:00:40,950 --> 01:00:39,910
stop brother says that jonas can't join

1478
01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:40,960
him in this

1479
01:00:47,829 --> 01:00:47,270
uh yeah i don't know what what um i have

1480
01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:47,839
to kind of

1481
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:50,000
look at look at that video more and

1482
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:51,440
listen a little bit more

1483
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:53,760
basically there's there's something some

1484
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:55,359
kind of change that brad is going

1485
01:00:59,910 --> 01:00:56,000
through and

1486
01:01:02,150 --> 01:00:59,920
moving on to to um

1487
01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:02,160
i guess to to a different way of

1488
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:03,520
understanding

1489
01:01:07,829 --> 01:01:06,240
um existence and life and himself if i'm

1490
01:01:09,910 --> 01:01:07,839
not mistaken to where

1491
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:09,920
a drone is and what adrionis was doing

1492
01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:11,760
with him kind of that fulfilled that

1493
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:12,960
part and so

1494
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:14,559
it's time for them to kind of go

1495
01:01:24,069 --> 01:01:23,589
okay let me see here rick i'm sorry i

1496
01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:24,079
just now

1497
01:01:29,270 --> 01:01:25,760
saw that you raised your hand on

1498
01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:31,190
yeah i thought there's a friend of mine

1499
01:01:33,430 --> 01:01:33,040
here who's a police officer who i'm not

1500
01:01:34,789 --> 01:01:33,440
gonna

1501
01:01:36,549 --> 01:01:34,799
you know mention who he is because he

1502
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:36,559
wanted to be anonymous but i was reading

1503
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:37,440
um

1504
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:39,040
once this is a couple years ago i was

1505
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:40,960
reading uh dolores cannons of the

1506
01:01:44,710 --> 01:01:42,000
custodians

1507
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:44,720
and there was a story in there about how

1508
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:46,480
a girl had woken up to

1509
01:01:49,750 --> 01:01:48,640
like four i guess five different beings

1510
01:01:51,270 --> 01:01:49,760
standing over here that were kind of

1511
01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:51,280
like brown in color

1512
01:01:55,270 --> 01:01:53,200
and like three days two or three days

1513
01:01:57,029 --> 01:01:55,280
after i read that um i went to

1514
01:01:58,470 --> 01:01:57,039
my my friend's house and her husband is

1515
01:02:00,710 --> 01:01:58,480
a police officer

1516
01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:00,720
uh told me that the same exact thing

1517
01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:02,400
happened to him in his room he's like

1518
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:04,079
hey i want to tell you this story

1519
01:02:07,510 --> 01:02:06,000
um but i don't really want you to tell

1520
01:02:08,069 --> 01:02:07,520
anybody else about it or like you know

1521
01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:08,079
don't tell

1522
01:02:12,069 --> 01:02:10,480
don't reveal who i am right um and he

1523
01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:12,079
doesn't live in the city anymore but

1524
01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:13,599
i hadn't even told him that i read this

1525
01:02:16,230 --> 01:02:14,880
book he's like yeah i woke up in the

1526
01:02:17,510 --> 01:02:16,240
middle of the night and i was like kind

1527
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:17,520
of frozen there were like four or five

1528
01:02:20,549 --> 01:02:18,880
beings kind of brownish in color

1529
01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:20,559
standing over me and i was like

1530
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:22,319
whoa but i thought that was interesting

1531
01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:23,760
because it was in the city

1532
01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:25,280
and most of the time you hear stories

1533
01:02:29,029 --> 01:02:27,280
coming from like rural areas

1534
01:02:30,710 --> 01:02:29,039
and this guy lives in the city so i just

1535
01:02:31,750 --> 01:02:30,720
thought like oh i've had people say well

1536
01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:31,760
you know how come

1537
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:33,760
everybody you know that sees aliens is

1538
01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:35,520
out in the countryside where nobody else

1539
01:02:38,069 --> 01:02:36,799
exists i'm like well that's not true

1540
01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:38,079
because i know people

1541
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:40,000
who personally who've experienced it in

1542
01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:41,280
the city so i just wanted to

1543
01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:43,520
kind of bring that up right well at

1544
01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:45,440
least one example

1545
01:02:50,069 --> 01:02:47,680
um you know it's something uh rick i

1546
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:50,079
know i don't usually get into this very

1547
01:02:53,349 --> 01:02:51,119
often i'm probably

1548
01:02:54,789 --> 01:02:53,359
going to try to do a whole show on this

1549
01:02:56,710 --> 01:02:54,799
and maybe

1550
01:02:59,109 --> 01:02:56,720
uh actually have several people that i

1551
01:03:02,950 --> 01:02:59,119
want to contact and that can talk

1552
01:03:05,829 --> 01:03:02,960
about this regarding um like near-death

1553
01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:05,839
experiences i'm actually um not this

1554
01:03:12,630 --> 01:03:06,799
friday this

1555
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:12,640
a numerologist on so that would be

1556
01:03:15,589 --> 01:03:14,640
pretty cool i hope those of you watching

1557
01:03:18,950 --> 01:03:15,599
uh log in

1558
01:03:20,950 --> 01:03:18,960
and chill along with doing the interview

1559
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:20,960
she might go through some of your guys

1560
01:03:25,270 --> 01:03:22,960
numbers and give you some feedback so i

1561
01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:25,280
always think it's pretty cool

1562
01:03:30,309 --> 01:03:28,559
and her name is sally i can't pronounce

1563
01:03:31,990 --> 01:03:30,319
her last name yet but please tune in on

1564
01:03:34,630 --> 01:03:32,000
friday it will be a seven

1565
01:03:36,150 --> 01:03:34,640
and but then next friday um i'm going to

1566
01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:36,160
be talking to

1567
01:03:43,589 --> 01:03:40,640
um melinda greer and she's had

1568
01:03:46,789 --> 01:03:43,599
a near death near death experience

1569
01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:46,799
ailing contact

1570
01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:49,200
bigfoot encounters all kinds of things

1571
01:03:54,470 --> 01:03:51,760
you know i mean multiple modalities

1572
01:03:56,870 --> 01:03:54,480
and she's actually also one of the

1573
01:03:59,029 --> 01:03:56,880
people that was

1574
01:04:01,029 --> 01:03:59,039
in the in that study group for ray

1575
01:04:02,150 --> 01:04:01,039
hernandez when they were doing the uh

1576
01:04:05,109 --> 01:04:02,160
the research

1577
01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:05,119
and so um anyway they'll be pretty

1578
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:06,400
interesting too that would be

1579
01:04:11,349 --> 01:04:09,280
next friday whatever date that makes it

1580
01:04:13,990 --> 01:04:11,359
so this friday is going to be sally

1581
01:04:16,390 --> 01:04:14,000
going doing numerology and then friday

1582
01:04:19,190 --> 01:04:16,400
after that is going to be melinda

1583
01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:19,200
so um uh but rick i wanted to ask you

1584
01:04:22,230 --> 01:04:20,640
something and if you can't talk about

1585
01:04:22,710 --> 01:04:22,240
this i can understand but it's something

1586
01:04:24,870 --> 01:04:22,720
that was

1587
01:04:26,230 --> 01:04:24,880
i don't know why it entered my mind but

1588
01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:26,240
remember when you were saying

1589
01:04:32,309 --> 01:04:29,280
um you volunteered

1590
01:04:35,029 --> 01:04:32,319
at the hospice right am i am i correct

1591
01:04:37,829 --> 01:04:35,039
or remember that correctly

1592
01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:37,839
yeah no i did can you can you speak a

1593
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:39,280
little bit about that where you said

1594
01:04:43,109 --> 01:04:41,680
it was some lady that was or somebody i

1595
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:43,119
don't know who it was if it was your

1596
01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:45,359
family member it was a specific event at

1597
01:04:49,829 --> 01:04:46,480
that hospice

1598
01:04:52,390 --> 01:04:49,839
that um um

1599
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:52,400
you you were kind of saying that usually

1600
01:04:57,910 --> 01:04:53,200
if

1601
01:05:00,069 --> 01:04:57,920
talked about someone who came to visit

1602
01:05:01,829 --> 01:05:00,079
me or i saw so and so that

1603
01:05:03,589 --> 01:05:01,839
soon after that they would they would

1604
01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:03,599
pass and there would seem to be kind of

1605
01:05:09,430 --> 01:05:04,720
this

1606
01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:09,440
little bit on that

1607
01:05:12,789 --> 01:05:11,200
yeah no actually this happened to my

1608
01:05:15,029 --> 01:05:12,799
grandma um

1609
01:05:16,630 --> 01:05:15,039
so my my dad's read a lot about

1610
01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:16,640
near-death experiences and talked about

1611
01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:18,400
the same thing that's been documented

1612
01:05:21,750 --> 01:05:19,760
like there's a i think it's a book

1613
01:05:23,670 --> 01:05:21,760
called future lies past lives or

1614
01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:23,680
maybe the other way around um but yeah

1615
01:05:28,230 --> 01:05:25,520
when my grandma was in the hospital

1616
01:05:30,549 --> 01:05:28,240
she's 83 dying of cancer

1617
01:05:31,270 --> 01:05:30,559
she like went into a state where she

1618
01:05:34,069 --> 01:05:31,280
would start

1619
01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:34,079
like calling out to her sister that died

1620
01:05:37,349 --> 01:05:35,760
well she died in the 80s her sister died

1621
01:05:38,630 --> 01:05:37,359
a long time ago and my grandma died in

1622
01:05:41,029 --> 01:05:38,640
2009

1623
01:05:42,549 --> 01:05:41,039
so yeah her sister was long gone but she

1624
01:05:43,829 --> 01:05:42,559
would go kind of like in this state

1625
01:05:45,510 --> 01:05:43,839
where she would be yelling out to her

1626
01:05:47,029 --> 01:05:45,520
her name was doed like dude

1627
01:05:49,109 --> 01:05:47,039
dote and she would be like pushing her

1628
01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:49,119
hand out and then like i think my dad

1629
01:05:52,870 --> 01:05:50,880
even asked her like you know hey are you

1630
01:05:54,630 --> 01:05:52,880
are you really seeing her like and then

1631
01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:54,640
she would kind of like snap out of it

1632
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:55,760
and then she'd look at my dad and she'd

1633
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:57,839
be like oh no no of course not

1634
01:06:01,270 --> 01:05:59,760
and then she'd snap back into it and

1635
01:06:02,390 --> 01:06:01,280
then she would start calling out to her

1636
01:06:03,990 --> 01:06:02,400
sister again

1637
01:06:06,069 --> 01:06:04,000
uh and then it wasn't long after that

1638
01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:06,079
that she kind of just went into

1639
01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:07,760
kind of like i guess i wouldn't it was

1640
01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:09,359
kind of like a coma to where she wasn't

1641
01:06:11,829 --> 01:06:09,760
like

1642
01:06:14,630 --> 01:06:11,839
responsive anymore and then she died i

1643
01:06:17,589 --> 01:06:14,640
guess like a few weeks after that

1644
01:06:18,870 --> 01:06:17,599
right and what was your i mean was there

1645
01:06:20,710 --> 01:06:18,880
anything specific that

1646
01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:20,720
you took away from your time

1647
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:22,880
volunteering it was volunteering or was

1648
01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:25,680
it a job at the hospice

1649
01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:27,200
no it was volunteering but i don't

1650
01:06:31,349 --> 01:06:29,200
remember like i wasn't like spending

1651
01:06:32,470 --> 01:06:31,359
like a lot of the the people that i met

1652
01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:32,480
like they were

1653
01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:34,160
they were actually awake and actually

1654
01:06:37,589 --> 01:06:36,160
rather spry you know they were they

1655
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:37,599
weren't like you know

1656
01:06:41,430 --> 01:06:40,000
in any kind of strange state so i would

1657
01:06:43,029 --> 01:06:41,440
just spend time with them or their

1658
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:43,039
family and then like when things got

1659
01:06:46,069 --> 01:06:44,400
serious and they went to the hospital i

1660
01:06:48,230 --> 01:06:46,079
wasn't really there for that

1661
01:06:49,270 --> 01:06:48,240
so i didn't really speak to the like my

1662
01:06:51,109 --> 01:06:49,280
pa the patients

1663
01:06:52,549 --> 01:06:51,119
about it but the experience you're

1664
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:52,559
recalling actually came directly from my

1665
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:53,119
grandmother

1666
01:06:57,109 --> 01:06:56,160
okay i see all right you know you know

1667
01:06:59,349 --> 01:06:57,119
um

1668
01:07:00,950 --> 01:06:59,359
it's interesting it's i wish there's so

1669
01:07:02,549 --> 01:07:00,960
many times um

1670
01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:02,559
they were just talking about

1671
01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:04,400
volunteering i always

1672
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:06,640
have this desire to go and just

1673
01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:08,319
volunteer someplace to help

1674
01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:10,960
whatever just to make a darn sandwich

1675
01:07:13,510 --> 01:07:11,359
you know

1676
01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:13,520
make hundreds of them whatever or just

1677
01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:14,400
you know offer

1678
01:07:17,829 --> 01:07:16,240
some of the skill levels that i have

1679
01:07:19,029 --> 01:07:17,839
which is you know whole list of stuff

1680
01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:19,039
that i can just

1681
01:07:22,549 --> 01:07:21,039
maybe help somebody else out but it's

1682
01:07:24,309 --> 01:07:22,559
always all these things

1683
01:07:25,829 --> 01:07:24,319
happen to always you know get him you

1684
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:25,839
know get in my way

1685
01:07:30,549 --> 01:07:29,440
like this darn family no you know it's

1686
01:07:31,910 --> 01:07:30,559
like one of those you know i was

1687
01:07:33,589 --> 01:07:31,920
thinking well maybe i can take a little

1688
01:07:35,029 --> 01:07:33,599
bit more time and i'm like how much more

1689
01:07:37,510 --> 01:07:35,039
time am i going to take

1690
01:07:39,510 --> 01:07:37,520
you know i'm spending a little time with

1691
01:07:41,589 --> 01:07:39,520
the family most of the time it's at work

1692
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:41,599
and then the other odd days i'm doing

1693
01:07:46,150 --> 01:07:43,119
this you know

1694
01:07:47,829 --> 01:07:46,160
uh and then it just seemed like this

1695
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:47,839
week is going to be super busy you know

1696
01:07:52,470 --> 01:07:48,960
uh monday

1697
01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:52,480
uh work and then the george interview

1698
01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:54,960
then after i was done with that started

1699
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:55,520
uh

1700
01:07:59,510 --> 01:07:57,440
mortal better than that editing on our

1701
01:08:00,789 --> 01:07:59,520
show that we did and then on tuesday i

1702
01:08:02,470 --> 01:08:00,799
did the webcast

1703
01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:02,480
so that was another two hour long

1704
01:08:06,390 --> 01:08:03,920
interview that now i have to start

1705
01:08:08,549 --> 01:08:06,400
editing to post coming up next week

1706
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:08,559
and then today doing this then tomorrow

1707
01:08:11,589 --> 01:08:10,000
there's going to be posts in the other

1708
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:11,599
video and then friday another interview

1709
01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:13,440
it's like i just don't have the time

1710
01:08:16,950 --> 01:08:15,200
i just absolutely don't have the time

1711
01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:16,960
you know it's like

1712
01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:19,839
uh during a full-time job and doing this

1713
01:08:23,110 --> 01:08:20,960
it's it's like

1714
01:08:23,990 --> 01:08:23,120
i can't i'm just going to burn myself

1715
01:08:26,309 --> 01:08:24,000
out and

1716
01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:26,319
then something's gonna have to give for

1717
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:36,229
rick are you there

1718
01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:38,390
you know i was yeah okay i was going to

1719
01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:39,600
say i'm talking to you

1720
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:42,640
don't you better not leave me and not

1721
01:08:44,709 --> 01:08:43,199
win

1722
01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:44,719
the reason why i talk to rick the way i

1723
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:46,640
talk to him he's one of my best friends

1724
01:08:48,789 --> 01:08:46,960
so

1725
01:08:50,950 --> 01:08:48,799
we have a totally different relationship

1726
01:08:53,910 --> 01:08:50,960
than most people that are guests and

1727
01:08:54,789 --> 01:08:53,920
log in so just want to explain that

1728
01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:54,799
before

1729
01:08:58,470 --> 01:08:56,480
people start thinking of being rude to

1730
01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:58,480
you

1731
01:09:02,950 --> 01:09:00,640
i don't know i'm not worried about it

1732
01:09:04,709 --> 01:09:02,960
yeah i know you're not but somebody else

1733
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:04,719
is like wow he was so rude to this rick

1734
01:09:06,870 --> 01:09:05,120
guy

1735
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:06,880
you know wouldn't understand i know

1736
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:11,990
yeah you're good man yeah yeah i don't

1737
01:09:14,789 --> 01:09:13,359
know i guess it's just part of my

1738
01:09:18,829 --> 01:09:14,799
personality just being

1739
01:09:22,870 --> 01:09:18,839
what's the word very forward

1740
01:09:28,149 --> 01:09:25,349
forward accepting i would say that

1741
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:28,159
forward yet accepting

1742
01:09:33,189 --> 01:09:30,960
you better say that um ara on twitch

1743
01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:33,199
says you can tell rick and you are close

1744
01:09:39,990 --> 01:09:38,630
yeah you know but you know i don't know

1745
01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:40,000
if i ever told you rick it's one of

1746
01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:41,199
these things like

1747
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:42,960
when it comes to friendships or close

1748
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:45,120
friends i have no

1749
01:09:50,149 --> 01:09:48,159
um i have no problems just being very

1750
01:09:51,430 --> 01:09:50,159
directive like hey you i need your help

1751
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:51,440
come help me now

1752
01:09:56,950 --> 01:09:54,560
you know and because i know

1753
01:09:57,750 --> 01:09:56,960
when they would come to me and ask me

1754
01:09:59,910 --> 01:09:57,760
for the same thing

1755
01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:59,920
i would be there in a second you know so

1756
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:00,880
i never

1757
01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:02,960
hesitate to just be in this friendly

1758
01:10:05,830 --> 01:10:04,719
rude way to just be like hey i need your

1759
01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:05,840
help come help

1760
01:10:11,270 --> 01:10:09,520
you know because i know that when if and

1761
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:11,280
if anyone ever just said hey i really

1762
01:10:14,870 --> 01:10:12,719
need your help i'm there

1763
01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:14,880
without question without a doubt you

1764
01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:16,080
know so that's what what

1765
01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:23,270
give give myself an excuse to just you

1766
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:23,679
know

1767
01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:25,440
not have to be super friendly with all

1768
01:10:29,830 --> 01:10:27,040
my close friends because i

1769
01:10:33,189 --> 01:10:29,840
think they know where i'm coming from i

1770
01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:33,199
hope you know where i'm coming from

1771
01:10:37,990 --> 01:10:34,400
i definitely know where you're coming

1772
01:10:39,910 --> 01:10:38,000
from all right good deal

1773
01:10:41,430 --> 01:10:39,920
so yeah are you planning to stick around

1774
01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:41,440
the united states or

1775
01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:42,880
are you going to desert this country

1776
01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:45,760
again and go to colombia

1777
01:10:50,390 --> 01:10:48,960
i am i mean at this point with you know

1778
01:10:51,910 --> 01:10:50,400
recently you know with the recent

1779
01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:51,920
situations in my life i'm not really

1780
01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:52,880
sure

1781
01:10:56,310 --> 01:10:55,280
um but i mean usually i end up getting

1782
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:56,320
like bored here

1783
01:10:59,510 --> 01:10:58,480
and i always end up wanting to go back

1784
01:11:01,430 --> 01:10:59,520
to colombia but

1785
01:11:02,550 --> 01:11:01,440
colombia is back in like protest again

1786
01:11:04,229 --> 01:11:02,560
right now and

1787
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:04,239
so i don't i don't know if it's exactly

1788
01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:06,080
a good idea to even go now or

1789
01:11:09,189 --> 01:11:08,000
wait until their elections next year

1790
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:09,199
because things are just completely

1791
01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:10,560
screwed up

1792
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:13,120
so i don't know we'll see i might go to

1793
01:11:18,229 --> 01:11:14,640
mexico

1794
01:11:20,870 --> 01:11:18,239
we'll see right well are you uh

1795
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:20,880
still helping uh china invade the united

1796
01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:23,199
states

1797
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:25,040
you know that's so funny you say that

1798
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:26,560
because like um

1799
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:28,719
i mean okay so one of the friends i met

1800
01:11:31,669 --> 01:11:29,600
in colombia

1801
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:31,679
uh like during the pandemic was a fellow

1802
01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:33,600
uh vip kid teacher

1803
01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:36,960
um and uh like we well i don't actually

1804
01:11:39,830 --> 01:11:38,159
probably shouldn't say this

1805
01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:39,840
i'm not gonna say that right now

1806
01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:41,360
actually i just mentioned the company's

1807
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:42,159
name

1808
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:44,560
uh but uh yeah we used to kind of joke

1809
01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:45,679
about stuff like that

1810
01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:47,600
you know like oh my god maybe tell me

1811
01:11:51,189 --> 01:11:49,120
you're like what are you doing i'm like

1812
01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:51,199
i i teach kids english not great

1813
01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:52,640
well you're teaching it's like chinese

1814
01:11:59,110 --> 01:11:54,719
kids i'm like wonderful

1815
01:12:02,390 --> 01:12:00,630
this is the first time i mentioned it

1816
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:02,400
but

1817
01:12:07,189 --> 01:12:05,280
though because like we have an

1818
01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:07,199
opportunity as online teachers since

1819
01:12:10,070 --> 01:12:08,560
we're teaching you know the children

1820
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:10,080
one-on-one in their homes it's almost

1821
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:12,000
like we're being brought into

1822
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:13,920
uh you know a chinese family's home you

1823
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:15,679
know from abroad so it's you kind of get

1824
01:12:18,630 --> 01:12:16,480
some interesting

1825
01:12:20,229 --> 01:12:18,640
insight as to how they think and how

1826
01:12:21,510 --> 01:12:20,239
they work and you know there's i mean

1827
01:12:22,709 --> 01:12:21,520
just like anywhere else you know you

1828
01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:22,719
just realize that

1829
01:12:26,149 --> 01:12:24,239
all of us are human so you know we get

1830
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:26,159
this idea over here that all chinese

1831
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:28,159
kids are like super super

1832
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:30,000
um disciplined and work really hard and

1833
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:31,679
they do work hard a lot of the parents

1834
01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:33,360
like have their kids involved in so many

1835
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:34,400
activities but

1836
01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:36,480
you see all kinds of different like

1837
01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:38,480
behavioral problems and parents just

1838
01:12:41,189 --> 01:12:39,760
letting their kids run around and do

1839
01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:41,199
whatever they want just like you see

1840
01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:41,840
here

1841
01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:45,600
that many differences between us them

1842
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:47,679
and them at all so it's pretty funny

1843
01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:49,040
actually

1844
01:12:52,470 --> 01:12:51,280
well i mean i don't know the only thing

1845
01:12:53,350 --> 01:12:52,480
the only reason why i say that

1846
01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:53,360
especially when

1847
01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:55,600
just from our perspective it's watching

1848
01:13:00,790 --> 01:12:57,840
watching the news and whatever

1849
01:13:01,830 --> 01:13:00,800
alternative or main stream whatever they

1850
01:13:04,070 --> 01:13:01,840
can give us

1851
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:04,080
you know it's everywhere you look it's

1852
01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:05,040
like china

1853
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:08,000
is you know stealing you know patents

1854
01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:09,840
plans basically it's like i didn't know

1855
01:13:13,830 --> 01:13:11,600
that you basically in order to produce

1856
01:13:16,070 --> 01:13:13,840
something in china you have to give your

1857
01:13:18,229 --> 01:13:16,080
full right uh to whatever you're

1858
01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:18,239
producing so they have the entire plan

1859
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:21,600
of that item so then they can recreate a

1860
01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:22,320
replica

1861
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:25,360
of that so like iphone it was sam or

1862
01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:26,960
android phone or any

1863
01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:29,360
any product you know i was not aware of

1864
01:13:33,669 --> 01:13:30,080
that

1865
01:13:34,229 --> 01:13:33,679
messed up you know so if you want

1866
01:13:36,149 --> 01:13:34,239
something to

1867
01:13:37,590 --> 01:13:36,159
be produced in china to be shipped into

1868
01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:37,600
united states it's like yeah you're

1869
01:13:43,189 --> 01:13:38,400
going to have to

1870
01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:46,310
now i mean there's um i don't know if

1871
01:13:49,350 --> 01:13:47,840
you follow johnny harris

1872
01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:49,360
on youtube and he did a really

1873
01:13:52,149 --> 01:13:51,360
interesting video on like what china is

1874
01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:52,159
up to

1875
01:13:55,590 --> 01:13:53,520
and he talks about this kind of stuff

1876
01:13:56,870 --> 01:13:55,600
but he also goes into like how it's

1877
01:13:58,709 --> 01:13:56,880
that kind of stuff is really like a

1878
01:14:00,310 --> 01:13:58,719
super power game because if you go to

1879
01:14:01,669 --> 01:14:00,320
south america

1880
01:14:02,790 --> 01:14:01,679
oh well actually i don't even know if

1881
01:14:04,310 --> 01:14:02,800
you've read the book there's the book

1882
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:04,320
called um

1883
01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:06,480
confessions and uh confessions of an

1884
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:07,600
economic hitman

1885
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:09,760
you know in the united states why did i

1886
01:14:11,830 --> 01:14:11,360
why did i know you were going there with

1887
01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:11,840
that

1888
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:16,080
it's like the way it's very simply

1889
01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:18,560
set up it's in a way the the west and

1890
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:20,400
united states and other countries do it

1891
01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:20,800
too

1892
01:14:29,350 --> 01:14:23,920
but for some reason i feel

1893
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:29,360
i don't know i feel there's more

1894
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:32,400
unrest more of a discord that would be

1895
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:33,520
happening

1896
01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:36,640
um you know if if child because china a

1897
01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:37,920
lot of times you know they'll go to

1898
01:14:41,990 --> 01:14:39,440
these different places like

1899
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:42,000
oh we'll help you out economically and

1900
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:44,080
build bridges and hospitals and all sort

1901
01:14:46,790 --> 01:14:44,880
of stuff

1902
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:46,800
oh and if you can't pay back we're going

1903
01:14:51,350 --> 01:14:49,360
to take over your you know cobalt mine

1904
01:14:52,870 --> 01:14:51,360
you know take over your you know gold

1905
01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:52,880
mine or silver mine or any of these

1906
01:14:55,830 --> 01:14:54,239
precious metals so

1907
01:14:57,910 --> 01:14:55,840
they pretty much own all these different

1908
01:14:58,790 --> 01:14:57,920
minds and resources all over the world

1909
01:15:01,030 --> 01:14:58,800
because these

1910
01:15:02,790 --> 01:15:01,040
small countries that were duped into

1911
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:02,800
getting into the loan they can't pay it

1912
01:15:06,070 --> 01:15:04,080
back

1913
01:15:07,750 --> 01:15:06,080
you know that's that's unfortunate there

1914
01:15:09,910 --> 01:15:07,760
and you know

1915
01:15:11,830 --> 01:15:09,920
and i love the united states so you know

1916
01:15:14,470 --> 01:15:11,840
this you know and everyone else that

1917
01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:14,480
watched me for any period of time you

1918
01:15:17,110 --> 01:15:16,159
know know this as well it's like i am an

1919
01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:17,120
american

1920
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:18,880
my wife is in america all my children

1921
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:20,480
are american you know so

1922
01:15:24,310 --> 01:15:22,880
you know i i mean this as a patriot you

1923
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:24,320
know but for me

1924
01:15:27,910 --> 01:15:27,199
you know i i know having lived in other

1925
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:27,920
countries

1926
01:15:31,270 --> 01:15:30,000
that there are some things that the

1927
01:15:33,189 --> 01:15:31,280
united states does

1928
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:33,199
that most americans don't know and when

1929
01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:34,880
the rest of the world gets pissed off

1930
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:36,640
for him about it the america average

1931
01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:38,000
american sits back he's saying

1932
01:15:41,110 --> 01:15:40,239
hey what did we do why are you so mad at

1933
01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:41,120
us it's like

1934
01:15:45,590 --> 01:15:44,080
well gee i don't know you just you know

1935
01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:45,600
bombed this place and

1936
01:15:51,110 --> 01:15:48,640
most americans didn't know about it

1937
01:15:51,990 --> 01:15:51,120
only comes out later you know what i

1938
01:15:53,350 --> 01:15:52,000
keep thinking about

1939
01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:53,360
do you remember the story you told me

1940
01:15:56,149 --> 01:15:55,520
when you were in japan and you guys were

1941
01:15:58,550 --> 01:15:56,159
sitting at

1942
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:58,560
some kind of bar or some kind of outside

1943
01:16:02,149 --> 01:16:00,000
bistro or something and

1944
01:16:03,189 --> 01:16:02,159
you were talking to australians and

1945
01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:03,199
people that were

1946
01:16:09,590 --> 01:16:06,239
backpacking throughout asia in general

1947
01:16:12,790 --> 01:16:09,600
do you remember that story oh you mean

1948
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:12,800
one uh where the the guy said that um

1949
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:14,480
if hitler had won that would have been

1950
01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:16,960
good for europe something like that

1951
01:16:22,070 --> 01:16:20,320
uh no no no no i i've never heard you

1952
01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:22,080
say that one no the one where you

1953
01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:24,000
basically this guy was talking about

1954
01:16:28,390 --> 01:16:26,480
backpacking to this place and you said

1955
01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:28,400
oh i've never heard of the place where

1956
01:16:32,950 --> 01:16:29,760
is that and he just looked he says

1957
01:16:35,430 --> 01:16:32,960
that's because you haven't bombed it yet

1958
01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:35,440
oh yeah yeah that was i it was that was

1959
01:16:38,310 --> 01:16:36,880
one of my friends from germany he was

1960
01:16:38,870 --> 01:16:38,320
just joking of course but he's like oh

1961
01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:38,880
yeah

1962
01:16:42,790 --> 01:16:41,120
it was actually some country in africa

1963
01:16:43,669 --> 01:16:42,800
and i've got at the time of course i'm

1964
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:43,679
21.

1965
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:46,320
i didn't really know anything so

1966
01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:47,760
although at least i was in japan you

1967
01:16:50,229 --> 01:16:49,040
know exploring the world at a time but

1968
01:16:51,430 --> 01:16:50,239
yeah i was like yeah i've never heard of

1969
01:16:52,790 --> 01:16:51,440
that country it's like oh that's because

1970
01:16:53,110 --> 01:16:52,800
you haven't bombed them yet i'm like all

1971
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:53,120
right

1972
01:16:59,990 --> 01:16:58,400
suck being an american and caring

1973
01:17:01,910 --> 01:17:00,000
passport

1974
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:01,920
uh that's funny no you know the thing is

1975
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:04,080
it only it matters to people who take it

1976
01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:05,840
personally i don't take it personally

1977
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:06,480
you know like

1978
01:17:09,669 --> 01:17:08,080
to me you know that was something well

1979
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:09,679
at least for me i learned once i went

1980
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:10,719
abroad like you know

1981
01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:12,719
every country is a country like the

1982
01:17:15,669 --> 01:17:13,920
united states is

1983
01:17:17,110 --> 01:17:15,679
is just another country there's lots of

1984
01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:17,120
great things about it sure

1985
01:17:20,310 --> 01:17:19,280
um but it's just another country so i

1986
01:17:21,750 --> 01:17:20,320
was born here

1987
01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:21,760
just like everybody else is born where

1988
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:23,760
they're born in and you know

1989
01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:25,440
but the world is a place for us all to

1990
01:17:29,189 --> 01:17:26,800
explore so

1991
01:17:30,229 --> 01:17:29,199
yes i mean just like i don't associate

1992
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:30,239
myself with

1993
01:17:33,430 --> 01:17:31,840
the actions of my government although i

1994
01:17:34,550 --> 01:17:33,440
can see why people might other people

1995
01:17:36,550 --> 01:17:34,560
might want to do that but

1996
01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:36,560
other people don't do that either i mean

1997
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:38,320
colombians for example they're

1998
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:40,080
they're so detached because things are

1999
01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:41,360
so corrupt there they're just kind of

2000
01:17:43,189 --> 01:17:41,760
like

2001
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:43,199
yep things are pretty screwed up but

2002
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:44,800
we're just gonna go dance and have a

2003
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:45,840
good time tonight

2004
01:17:50,149 --> 01:17:47,840
you know so i look at myself as an

2005
01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:50,159
explorer and i acknowledge like

2006
01:17:53,110 --> 01:17:51,600
like you said about the bombings and

2007
01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:53,120
negative things that happen like these

2008
01:17:55,510 --> 01:17:54,719
are governments that just do what they

2009
01:17:59,510 --> 01:17:55,520
do

2010
01:18:00,870 --> 01:17:59,520
unless like somebody actually wants to

2011
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:00,880
like like threaten me personally because

2012
01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:02,159
i didn't meet one guy who's like

2013
01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:03,920
oh you're an american you're a piece of

2014
01:18:07,030 --> 01:18:05,520
you i'm like all right i i don't need to

2015
01:18:10,390 --> 01:18:07,040
go there with you dude

2016
01:18:11,669 --> 01:18:10,400
like whatever yourself

2017
01:18:13,270 --> 01:18:11,679
i don't know how you feel about it i

2018
01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:13,280
don't think i've ever actually asked you

2019
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:14,400
directly but

2020
01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:18,239
you know um you know obviously

2021
01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:20,640
you know i immigrated to the united

2022
01:18:24,310 --> 01:18:22,080
states 20 years ago

2023
01:18:25,750 --> 01:18:24,320
and i've seen quite a bit of the world

2024
01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:25,760
and know how it is

2025
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:28,159
somewhere else and i personally don't

2026
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:29,280
want to

2027
01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:31,360
permanently live and call home anywhere

2028
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:32,880
else but the united states and

2029
01:18:35,270 --> 01:18:34,320
especially where i am now where my

2030
01:18:38,709 --> 01:18:35,280
family is

2031
01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:38,719
you know but you those that don't know

2032
01:18:42,390 --> 01:18:40,159
you that well

2033
01:18:44,390 --> 01:18:42,400
you backpacked through asia you backbed

2034
01:18:44,950 --> 01:18:44,400
through through south america pretty

2035
01:18:46,630 --> 01:18:44,960
much

2036
01:18:48,149 --> 01:18:46,640
you know you've been to you know all

2037
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:48,159
these different places

2038
01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:51,120
to where you got to see you know all the

2039
01:18:53,510 --> 01:18:52,960
good parts and the bad parts everywhere

2040
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:53,520
else

2041
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:56,560
you know would you still agree with the

2042
01:18:59,750 --> 01:18:57,280
saying that

2043
01:19:01,430 --> 01:18:59,760
at the end of the day the united states

2044
01:19:06,790 --> 01:19:01,440
you know is still the best place

2045
01:19:10,149 --> 01:19:09,110
yeah i mean certainly it's it's the

2046
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:10,159
safest place

2047
01:19:13,189 --> 01:19:11,760
and it's the most functional and it's

2048
01:19:14,709 --> 01:19:13,199
the most um it's the most

2049
01:19:16,149 --> 01:19:14,719
organized at least from the places i've

2050
01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:16,159
been to now i haven't been to europe i

2051
01:19:19,110 --> 01:19:16,719
haven't

2052
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:19,120
i like i have a fascination for you know

2053
01:19:22,550 --> 01:19:20,560
countries like south america

2054
01:19:23,910 --> 01:19:22,560
and thailand because they're like so

2055
01:19:26,229 --> 01:19:23,920
vastly different

2056
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:26,239
um but i mean there's also so basically

2057
01:19:29,350 --> 01:19:27,679
you back when you did your asian

2058
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:29,360
backpack name all the countries where

2059
01:19:32,229 --> 01:19:30,239
you went through

2060
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:32,239
please if you don't mind um we started

2061
01:19:35,030 --> 01:19:34,480
through thailand cambodia vietnam and

2062
01:19:36,950 --> 01:19:35,040
laos

2063
01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:36,960
those four countries okay and then

2064
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:39,360
you've been to

2065
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:41,600
uh japan oh yeah so yeah that's a pretty

2066
01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:42,960
you know yeah that country i was there

2067
01:19:47,590 --> 01:19:44,080
for three and a half months

2068
01:19:51,189 --> 01:19:47,600
um as a student um and then in

2069
01:19:53,110 --> 01:19:51,199
2016 i decided to go to south america so

2070
01:19:53,669 --> 01:19:53,120
i started in colombia and then i went to

2071
01:19:56,470 --> 01:19:53,679
ecuador

2072
01:19:57,669 --> 01:19:56,480
peru and bolivia and then i decided man

2073
01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:57,679
colombia is so interesting i want to

2074
01:20:00,149 --> 01:19:58,239
spend

2075
01:20:01,430 --> 01:20:00,159
another year in another year so i keep

2076
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:01,440
going back there

2077
01:20:06,229 --> 01:20:04,560
okay and then now i've since i've driven

2078
01:20:07,270 --> 01:20:06,239
my car and i since took a road trip

2079
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:07,280
through mexico too

2080
01:20:10,709 --> 01:20:08,560
so that was pretty cool that was you

2081
01:20:13,030 --> 01:20:10,719
know a month ago right

2082
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:13,040
and so as an american traveling and

2083
01:20:16,790 --> 01:20:14,880
especially if you have to show documents

2084
01:20:18,229 --> 01:20:16,800
it would be american documents so how

2085
01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:18,239
did that feel to you

2086
01:20:21,830 --> 01:20:20,480
um what what is i mean what i'm trying

2087
01:20:23,750 --> 01:20:21,840
to say is you just

2088
01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:23,760
let me literally what couple weeks ago

2089
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:25,840
came back so it's pretty accurate

2090
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:27,360
information regarding this because

2091
01:20:31,189 --> 01:20:29,440
we can we can get mainstream news

2092
01:20:32,950 --> 01:20:31,199
regarding this and it's always going to

2093
01:20:34,229 --> 01:20:32,960
be slanted one way or another but from

2094
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:34,239
your perspective

2095
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:36,239
you know were you having issues were you

2096
01:20:41,750 --> 01:20:38,320
having difficulties to any of those

2097
01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:41,760
countries having american papers

2098
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:44,159
no actually to be quite honest with you

2099
01:20:48,149 --> 01:20:46,080
i have more difficulty coming back to

2100
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:48,159
the united states than anywhere else

2101
01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:50,880
um like they because of here like

2102
01:20:53,830 --> 01:20:51,600
they're

2103
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:53,840
i've been treated with absolute respect

2104
01:20:57,350 --> 01:20:55,360
everywhere i've gone and actually i

2105
01:20:59,350 --> 01:20:57,360
should say like i got searched once in

2106
01:21:01,830 --> 01:20:59,360
colombia actually the first time

2107
01:21:03,350 --> 01:21:01,840
um they stopped me and asked me to like

2108
01:21:05,669 --> 01:21:03,360
they actually pulled my laptop

2109
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:05,679
out and asked you know to look at it i

2110
01:21:07,830 --> 01:21:07,199
was like whoa you're like but they were

2111
01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:07,840
super

2112
01:21:12,390 --> 01:21:11,840
porn they knew what they were looking

2113
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:12,400
for

2114
01:21:15,750 --> 01:21:14,080
um because they turned on my laptop as

2115
01:21:16,950 --> 01:21:15,760
soon as they they saw the title screen

2116
01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:16,960
they're just like oh okay

2117
01:21:21,189 --> 01:21:18,800
and they just shut it down but they've

2118
01:21:22,550 --> 01:21:21,199
always been very very nice

2119
01:21:24,149 --> 01:21:22,560
everywhere i've gone and you and the

2120
01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:24,159
security is a lot more lacks you know

2121
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:25,760
you don't need to take your shoes off

2122
01:21:29,110 --> 01:21:27,360
and all this other junk but then when

2123
01:21:32,310 --> 01:21:29,120
you come back to the united states like

2124
01:21:34,149 --> 01:21:32,320
the tsa is yelling and screaming at you

2125
01:21:35,910 --> 01:21:34,159
and i mean i feel like when i come back

2126
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:35,920
to the states and other travelers i've

2127
01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:36,960
spoke about i've spoke to

2128
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:38,800
feel the same way you get treated like a

2129
01:21:41,590 --> 01:21:40,320
criminal like you come back here some of

2130
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:41,600
them are like what have you been doing

2131
01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:43,199
abroad solo it's like dude

2132
01:21:46,229 --> 01:21:45,120
you know i just want to get home and so

2133
01:21:49,830 --> 01:21:46,239
it sucks because

2134
01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:49,840
you know this country has a lot of great

2135
01:21:52,870 --> 01:21:51,120
well i was going to say this country has

2136
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:52,880
a lot of great things about it you know

2137
01:21:56,070 --> 01:21:54,800
but i see why people like want to hate

2138
01:21:57,910 --> 01:21:56,080
the united states because

2139
01:21:59,270 --> 01:21:57,920
we have that edge where it's like this

2140
01:22:00,790 --> 01:21:59,280
kind of threatening like oh you got to

2141
01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:00,800
prove like why you're good enough to

2142
01:22:04,709 --> 01:22:02,800
even come back here it's just a really

2143
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:04,719
weird thing and and they and they make

2144
01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:06,239
you feel intimidated when you come back

2145
01:22:09,590 --> 01:22:07,760
so i always hate

2146
01:22:10,709 --> 01:22:09,600
coming back through the tsa because i

2147
01:22:11,990 --> 01:22:10,719
know that they're going to give me some

2148
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:12,000
grief about something

2149
01:22:16,470 --> 01:22:14,159
but when i go abroad they're they're

2150
01:22:18,629 --> 01:22:16,480
very nice like like actually in mexico

2151
01:22:19,830 --> 01:22:18,639
um i had a tripod in my back hold that

2152
01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:19,840
all the thought i want i want to

2153
01:22:23,110 --> 01:22:21,600
continue this conversation but i think

2154
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:23,120
this is something you need to address

2155
01:22:29,830 --> 01:22:26,400
especially for this

2156
01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:29,840
particular person edward sosa he says

2157
01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:31,600
heaven tell us how does it feel to have

2158
01:22:35,189 --> 01:22:32,639
money to travel

2159
01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:35,199
being rich feels great well rick

2160
01:22:38,550 --> 01:22:36,719
everyone that knows you you're

2161
01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:38,560
such a rich dude why don't you why don't

2162
01:22:42,550 --> 01:22:40,239
you tell us about traveling and

2163
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:42,560
what it's actually like because everyone

2164
01:22:47,110 --> 01:22:43,920
well also

2165
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:47,120
travel so i don't i don't exactly know

2166
01:22:50,950 --> 01:22:48,800
what what he means by that

2167
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:50,960
um i mean because a rich is relative too

2168
01:22:54,390 --> 01:22:52,159
well um

2169
01:22:55,750 --> 01:22:54,400
what i'm saying is when it's when you

2170
01:22:57,590 --> 01:22:55,760
when you hear oh i

2171
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:57,600
went to all these different countries

2172
01:23:01,430 --> 01:22:59,199
they're thinking that you

2173
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:01,440
like stayed at these great places and

2174
01:23:05,590 --> 01:23:02,800
that it was like this

2175
01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:05,600
you know you know hundreds of dollars

2176
01:23:08,709 --> 01:23:06,480
spent

2177
01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:08,719
to stay at one place and then enjoy and

2178
01:23:11,910 --> 01:23:10,400
then you move on somewhere else

2179
01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:11,920
why don't you like just break it down

2180
01:23:16,470 --> 01:23:13,520
and actually explain because

2181
01:23:17,189 --> 01:23:16,480
you know it's not for what i know about

2182
01:23:18,790 --> 01:23:17,199
you and

2183
01:23:21,590 --> 01:23:18,800
for when i remember unless i'm wrong

2184
01:23:23,189 --> 01:23:21,600
it's not like it at all

2185
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:23,199
absolutely no absolutely not it's

2186
01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:25,440
interesting because the job that i left

2187
01:23:29,350 --> 01:23:27,600
i i came back there i worked you know i

2188
01:23:30,709 --> 01:23:29,360
worked at costco for six years and i did

2189
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:30,719
make great money there

2190
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:34,320
um but like i quit and uh people there

2191
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:36,080
when i came back i come i came to find

2192
01:23:39,189 --> 01:23:37,440
out they thought that i had cashed out

2193
01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:39,199
my 401k to do what i was doing there's

2194
01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:40,560
one guy's like all right tell me how

2195
01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:42,239
much did it cost you thirty thousand

2196
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:44,960
forty thousand like no actually i saved

2197
01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:45,760
up like

2198
01:23:54,870 --> 01:23:53,040
so yeah i did but i saved it and i had

2199
01:23:56,950 --> 01:23:54,880
to pay off a lot i worked hard

2200
01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:56,960
to stash that money away and i even used

2201
01:24:00,390 --> 01:23:58,320
like my uh

2202
01:24:02,149 --> 01:24:00,400
like my management skills to like create

2203
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:02,159
like a future and put like

2204
01:24:05,430 --> 01:24:04,400
you know like uh like projections as to

2205
01:24:07,830 --> 01:24:05,440
when i could do it so i'm planning to

2206
01:24:10,070 --> 01:24:07,840
take you to save that up

2207
01:24:11,350 --> 01:24:10,080
two years and once i had my mindset on

2208
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:11,360
it and i had i had

2209
01:24:15,910 --> 01:24:13,760
credit card debt i had a car to pay off

2210
01:24:17,430 --> 01:24:15,920
um so i had to cut my expenses and i had

2211
01:24:19,110 --> 01:24:17,440
to work really hard and like

2212
01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:19,120
i even saved up my vacation and

2213
01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:20,960
calculated that you know because i knew

2214
01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:22,880
once i quit they would pay that out so

2215
01:24:26,149 --> 01:24:24,560
yeah that initially got me to just kind

2216
01:24:26,790 --> 01:24:26,159
of travel and do what i wanted for four

2217
01:24:29,270 --> 01:24:26,800
months

2218
01:24:30,470 --> 01:24:29,280
but like when i went to uh when i went

2219
01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:30,480
to uh

2220
01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:34,080
what was it southeast asia uh no um i

2221
01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:36,960
actually charged my credit card and paid

2222
01:24:39,910 --> 01:24:39,040
like fifteen hundred dollars to take a

2223
01:24:41,510 --> 01:24:39,920
ticket there

2224
01:24:43,110 --> 01:24:41,520
and then i charged other stuff and i was

2225
01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:43,120
in debt for a for a while

2226
01:24:47,590 --> 01:24:46,320
after that um and then like i wanted to

2227
01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:47,600
i'm going to cut to the chase it

2228
01:24:51,590 --> 01:24:49,840
basically you stated hostel so it's like

2229
01:24:53,590 --> 01:24:51,600
not the best conditions

2230
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:53,600
the the cheapest places you could stay

2231
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:55,840
what was it like ten dollars a day

2232
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:58,560
or something yeah oh yeah exactly yeah

2233
01:25:01,669 --> 01:25:00,000
that's exactly right yeah so when i

2234
01:25:03,910 --> 01:25:01,679
backpacked them both places i stayed in

2235
01:25:05,910 --> 01:25:03,920
the cheapest place that i could find

2236
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:05,920
so yeah it is true i'm i'm rocking

2237
01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:07,920
dollars right so dollars carry a lot

2238
01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:09,360
further that is true

2239
01:25:12,629 --> 01:25:11,360
um so yeah i have that at that edge to

2240
01:25:14,790 --> 01:25:12,639
be able to do that

2241
01:25:16,709 --> 01:25:14,800
um but but no i'm not staying in like

2242
01:25:18,149 --> 01:25:16,719
five star hotels and you know live in

2243
01:25:19,510 --> 01:25:18,159
this lavish lifestyle like

2244
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:19,520
there were a lot of places that were

2245
01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:21,600
kind of dirty um i stayed in like bunks

2246
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:22,880
where there were places where

2247
01:25:26,149 --> 01:25:24,639
25 people were staying like not only

2248
01:25:27,990 --> 01:25:26,159
that you're coming back you weren't

2249
01:25:29,590 --> 01:25:28,000
coming back to a job you weren't coming

2250
01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:29,600
back to an apartment like there was

2251
01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:30,719
nothing there for you

2252
01:25:34,149 --> 01:25:32,719
most likely would have probably gone

2253
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:34,159
back to your parents just for a little

2254
01:25:36,790 --> 01:25:35,840
bit until then you found the job and

2255
01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:36,800
then maybe

2256
01:25:40,790 --> 01:25:39,600
be able to move back out again right no

2257
01:25:42,629 --> 01:25:40,800
in fact i came back

2258
01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:42,639
um i got certified to teach english

2259
01:25:46,470 --> 01:25:44,000
because i wanted to live abroad

2260
01:25:48,390 --> 01:25:46,480
um so i did that um i picked up a

2261
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:48,400
seasonal job i also picked up a second

2262
01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:49,600
job catering uh

2263
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:51,280
to help you know make back the money i

2264
01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:53,360
spent and so i could go back to columbia

2265
01:25:57,430 --> 01:25:54,880
and then when i went back to columbia

2266
01:25:59,910 --> 01:25:57,440
i worked in pesos like and i was making

2267
01:26:00,709 --> 01:25:59,920
like 2.4 million pesos a month which is

2268
01:26:03,189 --> 01:26:00,719
actually

2269
01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:03,199
really high for a lot of people but that

2270
01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:04,960
only comes to be about 700

2271
01:26:08,470 --> 01:26:07,360
a month and i had a car to pay for still

2272
01:26:10,870 --> 01:26:08,480
the insurance

2273
01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:10,880
it was very difficult to live on that um

2274
01:26:13,350 --> 01:26:11,600
and i did that

2275
01:26:14,950 --> 01:26:13,360
for a year and i ended up coming home

2276
01:26:16,470 --> 01:26:14,960
because like things happened with my

2277
01:26:16,950 --> 01:26:16,480
contract but i came home with 700

2278
01:26:19,830 --> 01:26:16,960
dollars

2279
01:26:21,430 --> 01:26:19,840
in my bank account and i had to like

2280
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:21,440
work and get it all back and luckily i

2281
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:22,000
had a job

2282
01:26:25,030 --> 01:26:23,520
lined up in the catering job and went

2283
01:26:26,629 --> 01:26:25,040
back to it and worked again

2284
01:26:28,070 --> 01:26:26,639
and then i got an online teaching job

2285
01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:28,080
and went back and that's how i did so no

2286
01:26:30,709 --> 01:26:29,360
i've been working

2287
01:26:33,430 --> 01:26:30,719
most of the time that i went abroad i

2288
01:26:34,709 --> 01:26:33,440
only like traveled leisurely for four

2289
01:26:36,149 --> 01:26:34,719
months after i

2290
01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:36,159
saved a lot of money that most people

2291
01:26:39,750 --> 01:26:37,840
would probably put down on a house but

2292
01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:39,760
i decided like you know what i just want

2293
01:26:42,629 --> 01:26:41,040
to go and travel and see what that's

2294
01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:42,639
like and that's what i did but no yeah

2295
01:26:44,950 --> 01:26:43,440
i'm not well

2296
01:26:46,470 --> 01:26:44,960
yeah but after you saved up and all that

2297
01:26:47,510 --> 01:26:46,480
well i just wanted to clarify that you

2298
01:26:49,910 --> 01:26:47,520
know i wanted to

2299
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:49,920
because a lot of times what you know

2300
01:26:53,189 --> 01:26:50,880
people only

2301
01:26:54,229 --> 01:26:53,199
think the the way to go is the way we

2302
01:26:57,510 --> 01:26:54,239
tradition i mean just

2303
01:27:01,590 --> 01:26:57,520
hell i'm looking for a place for a

2304
01:27:04,709 --> 01:27:01,600
family of of um five

2305
01:27:06,950 --> 01:27:04,719
entirely to just go and maybe stay

2306
01:27:08,629 --> 01:27:06,960
somewhere for a few days and to just

2307
01:27:10,310 --> 01:27:08,639
have enough space for everybody

2308
01:27:13,189 --> 01:27:10,320
you know and it's just like two three

2309
01:27:16,390 --> 01:27:13,199
grand just to go for three four days

2310
01:27:18,310 --> 01:27:16,400
and this is just to stay you know and

2311
01:27:19,590 --> 01:27:18,320
i'm just like how in the world you know

2312
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:19,600
so we're like all right well i guess

2313
01:27:22,950 --> 01:27:20,880
we're gonna try next year

2314
01:27:24,470 --> 01:27:22,960
you know and so what i'm saying is that

2315
01:27:26,229 --> 01:27:24,480
you know any time when people hear

2316
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:26,239
others traveling you always think like

2317
01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:27,760
oh you must come for money so

2318
01:27:30,629 --> 01:27:29,040
you don't have to worry about anything

2319
01:27:32,229 --> 01:27:30,639
i'm sure you're worried constantly where

2320
01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:32,239
you're gonna get your money from

2321
01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:35,120
you know well yeah i mean well

2322
01:27:38,870 --> 01:27:37,199
especially when i was working in pesos i

2323
01:27:40,070 --> 01:27:38,880
mean i had i got to the point where like

2324
01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:40,080
you know i had to take

2325
01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:41,679
you know i had to walk or take the

2326
01:27:44,950 --> 01:27:43,199
cheapest transportation which meant

2327
01:27:46,550 --> 01:27:44,960
sometimes taking a two-hour bus ride

2328
01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:46,560
instead of taking a taxi ride to get

2329
01:27:49,189 --> 01:27:47,440
somewhere because

2330
01:27:51,110 --> 01:27:49,199
i was living on that lower wage and i

2331
01:27:52,070 --> 01:27:51,120
also like i couldn't go to fancy

2332
01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:52,080
restaurants

2333
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:53,600
and i remember the last thing that

2334
01:27:57,350 --> 01:27:54,719
happened was like that put into

2335
01:27:58,790 --> 01:27:57,360
perspective was i bought a laser printer

2336
01:28:00,790 --> 01:27:58,800
um which was because i felt like i

2337
01:28:01,669 --> 01:28:00,800
needed it for my job and like it ran out

2338
01:28:04,790 --> 01:28:01,679
of ink

2339
01:28:06,550 --> 01:28:04,800
and buying like you know a 150 like

2340
01:28:08,629 --> 01:28:06,560
toner was something i really

2341
01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:08,639
had to think about and put off because i

2342
01:28:11,189 --> 01:28:09,840
couldn't afford it

2343
01:28:13,510 --> 01:28:11,199
you know i couldn't i couldn't afford

2344
01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:13,520
that right so

2345
01:28:17,510 --> 01:28:15,679
it was it was tough but um the thing is

2346
01:28:19,270 --> 01:28:17,520
though of course being from america

2347
01:28:21,350 --> 01:28:19,280
i mean it is true i can just leave and

2348
01:28:22,629 --> 01:28:21,360
go back home right so it's

2349
01:28:24,229 --> 01:28:22,639
i do have that advantage that's

2350
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:24,239
definitely true but i'm not like a rich

2351
01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:25,920
like trust fund baby that's spending my

2352
01:28:30,390 --> 01:28:28,000
parents money doing whatever i want no

2353
01:28:32,390 --> 01:28:30,400
right absolutely not all right well

2354
01:28:34,550 --> 01:28:32,400
anyway i just wanted to clarify that so

2355
01:28:35,430 --> 01:28:34,560
anyway you would you want to go back to

2356
01:28:38,149 --> 01:28:35,440
what you were saying

2357
01:28:39,669 --> 01:28:38,159
so you said uh you were searched they

2358
01:28:42,870 --> 01:28:39,679
were polite about

2359
01:28:44,390 --> 01:28:42,880
um your place i mean about um searching

2360
01:28:45,030 --> 01:28:44,400
your stuff and looking at your laptop

2361
01:28:48,310 --> 01:28:45,040
and then

2362
01:28:51,430 --> 01:28:49,990
well with that particular story i mean i

2363
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:51,440
don't exactly know what that was about

2364
01:28:55,270 --> 01:28:52,960
but what was interesting was

2365
01:28:55,990 --> 01:28:55,280
i i had been in colombia for an extended

2366
01:28:59,830 --> 01:28:56,000
stay because

2367
01:29:01,910 --> 01:28:59,840
of uh the pandemic and uh i was also had

2368
01:29:03,669 --> 01:29:01,920
been traveling with a russian girlfriend

2369
01:29:05,189 --> 01:29:03,679
at the time and uh

2370
01:29:06,709 --> 01:29:05,199
we went to ecuador and there was some

2371
01:29:07,990 --> 01:29:06,719
weird stuff with our passports there

2372
01:29:10,229 --> 01:29:08,000
because of all this stuff

2373
01:29:11,910 --> 01:29:10,239
so anyway i got stopped at the airport

2374
01:29:13,189 --> 01:29:11,920
and then she also got stopped at the

2375
01:29:15,669 --> 01:29:13,199
airport when she left

2376
01:29:16,790 --> 01:29:15,679
and three days after that there was a

2377
01:29:18,950 --> 01:29:16,800
story on my google

2378
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:18,960
news feed that said that there were

2379
01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:20,560
three russian spies or

2380
01:29:24,229 --> 01:29:22,080
what they thought to be three russian

2381
01:29:25,910 --> 01:29:24,239
spies that were interrogated

2382
01:29:27,510 --> 01:29:25,920
and you know expelled from the country

2383
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:27,520
just three days after that

2384
01:29:30,790 --> 01:29:29,440
so i'm wondering if that had something

2385
01:29:33,110 --> 01:29:30,800
to do with it they

2386
01:29:33,910 --> 01:29:33,120
you know but i don't know but they were

2387
01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:33,920
really nice

2388
01:29:39,350 --> 01:29:37,440
respectful they didn't like you know

2389
01:29:41,590 --> 01:29:39,360
get in my face or treat me not badly

2390
01:29:43,350 --> 01:29:41,600
they were always very respectful

2391
01:29:45,430 --> 01:29:43,360
well tell me a little bit how was

2392
01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:45,440
colombia in general during the lockdowns

2393
01:29:48,470 --> 01:29:46,400
there i mean

2394
01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:48,480
i know they went like totally crazy can

2395
01:29:51,590 --> 01:29:49,920
you a little bit maybe go a little bit

2396
01:29:53,350 --> 01:29:51,600
into that

2397
01:29:55,350 --> 01:29:53,360
well during the lockdown actually things

2398
01:29:56,550 --> 01:29:55,360
were surprisingly calm at least in the

2399
01:29:58,310 --> 01:29:56,560
area that i was in

2400
01:30:00,550 --> 01:29:58,320
so like you know they locked everything

2401
01:30:02,149 --> 01:30:00,560
down the streets were you know almost

2402
01:30:03,110 --> 01:30:02,159
completely desolate you could still take

2403
01:30:04,310 --> 01:30:03,120
a taxi

2404
01:30:06,550 --> 01:30:04,320
but at night they would fly these

2405
01:30:08,149 --> 01:30:06,560
helicopters around and uh like blow

2406
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:08,159
sirens and announce like you know like

2407
01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:09,280
if there's a curfew

2408
01:30:14,229 --> 01:30:12,560
you need to go inside um and from that

2409
01:30:15,750 --> 01:30:14,239
respect like

2410
01:30:16,709 --> 01:30:15,760
i don't know i mean i didn't go all over

2411
01:30:18,149 --> 01:30:16,719
the city because we weren't really

2412
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:18,159
supposed to travel and of course i mean

2413
01:30:22,070 --> 01:30:19,199
i didn't want to risk

2414
01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:22,080
getting covet at first either um but the

2415
01:30:25,510 --> 01:30:23,440
lack time was tough

2416
01:30:27,430 --> 01:30:25,520
and a lot of people lost their jobs i

2417
01:30:29,189 --> 01:30:27,440
saw businesses like closing up like you

2418
01:30:31,590 --> 01:30:29,199
know as the months went on

2419
01:30:33,030 --> 01:30:31,600
um so that happened but the craziness

2420
01:30:34,790 --> 01:30:33,040
didn't really start until

2421
01:30:36,310 --> 01:30:34,800
in april when they had their protest

2422
01:30:37,110 --> 01:30:36,320
because the the president wanted to pass

2423
01:30:39,990 --> 01:30:37,120
a 19

2424
01:30:42,310 --> 01:30:40,000
sales tax on everybody and lower the the

2425
01:30:44,070 --> 01:30:42,320
tax threshold to encompass more

2426
01:30:46,950 --> 01:30:44,080
people in the lower income area and

2427
01:30:48,470 --> 01:30:46,960
people just absolutely raged over that

2428
01:30:50,550 --> 01:30:48,480
um so that's when things got really

2429
01:30:53,669 --> 01:30:50,560
crazy

2430
01:30:55,990 --> 01:30:53,679
oh wow so um i mean

2431
01:30:56,870 --> 01:30:56,000
was it was that basically when then yeah

2432
01:30:59,910 --> 01:30:56,880
when i

2433
01:31:02,070 --> 01:30:59,920
contact you

2434
01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:02,080
because i saw immediate disclose that tv

2435
01:31:05,189 --> 01:31:03,679
that they were like shooting people on

2436
01:31:07,590 --> 01:31:05,199
the street and all kinds of

2437
01:31:08,709 --> 01:31:07,600
stuff was happening and at that time you

2438
01:31:10,550 --> 01:31:08,719
know i knew that

2439
01:31:12,070 --> 01:31:10,560
you were living close by that so i was

2440
01:31:13,270 --> 01:31:12,080
trying to contact you you know i was

2441
01:31:15,430 --> 01:31:13,280
serious about i'm like

2442
01:31:17,030 --> 01:31:15,440
rick if i need to send the arkansas

2443
01:31:17,590 --> 01:31:17,040
national guard down that you just let me

2444
01:31:21,030 --> 01:31:17,600
know

2445
01:31:22,070 --> 01:31:21,040
because it looked pretty bad so

2446
01:31:24,870 --> 01:31:22,080
can you tell me a little bit about

2447
01:31:26,550 --> 01:31:24,880
what's going on there

2448
01:31:28,790 --> 01:31:26,560
yeah so actually it's actually kind of

2449
01:31:30,310 --> 01:31:28,800
hard to tell exactly what was going on

2450
01:31:31,910 --> 01:31:30,320
because there were a lot of i think

2451
01:31:32,470 --> 01:31:31,920
there's a lot of different factions

2452
01:31:33,910 --> 01:31:32,480
involved

2453
01:31:35,830 --> 01:31:33,920
in colombia like a lot of it's

2454
01:31:36,390 --> 01:31:35,840
historical too there's so much going on

2455
01:31:38,870 --> 01:31:36,400
but

2456
01:31:39,669 --> 01:31:38,880
from what i understand is i there were

2457
01:31:42,310 --> 01:31:39,679
people that

2458
01:31:43,030 --> 01:31:42,320
blockaded like roads like main transit

2459
01:31:44,629 --> 01:31:43,040
points where

2460
01:31:45,990 --> 01:31:44,639
products were able to come into the to

2461
01:31:48,390 --> 01:31:46,000
the city and they were doing this on

2462
01:31:51,110 --> 01:31:48,400
purpose to get the president's attention

2463
01:31:51,990 --> 01:31:51,120
um so supplies were locked off uh

2464
01:31:53,669 --> 01:31:52,000
shipping

2465
01:31:56,310 --> 01:31:53,679
like trucks were not allowed to bring

2466
01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:56,320
like vegetables and fruits and ipads

2467
01:31:58,950 --> 01:31:57,360
anything you can think of they weren't

2468
01:32:00,709 --> 01:31:58,960
allowed to bring it into the city

2469
01:32:02,870 --> 01:32:00,719
so you started seeing restaurants like

2470
01:32:05,910 --> 01:32:02,880
offering like very slim

2471
01:32:08,470 --> 01:32:05,920
menus you couldn't get chicken uh the

2472
01:32:11,830 --> 01:32:08,480
price of potatoes went up like 10 times

2473
01:32:12,390 --> 01:32:11,840
that was crazy but then there were also

2474
01:32:14,870 --> 01:32:12,400
um

2475
01:32:16,229 --> 01:32:14,880
people that were getting in fire fights

2476
01:32:17,910 --> 01:32:16,239
with the police

2477
01:32:19,270 --> 01:32:17,920
and it was hard to say like who was

2478
01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:19,280
doing what because i never actually

2479
01:32:22,709 --> 01:32:20,800
witnessed that myself

2480
01:32:24,149 --> 01:32:22,719
there were videos all over the place but

2481
01:32:26,390 --> 01:32:24,159
there were videos of where like the

2482
01:32:28,229 --> 01:32:26,400
police would be standing around

2483
01:32:30,390 --> 01:32:28,239
in a line and then there would be like

2484
01:32:31,590 --> 01:32:30,400
unarmed protesters you know just yelling

2485
01:32:33,110 --> 01:32:31,600
and screaming or whatever

2486
01:32:35,189 --> 01:32:33,120
but then there would actually be like

2487
01:32:37,430 --> 01:32:35,199
these civilian looking men

2488
01:32:39,270 --> 01:32:37,440
standing with the police holding guns

2489
01:32:41,430 --> 01:32:39,280
like like one-handed pistols

2490
01:32:43,110 --> 01:32:41,440
shooting at people uh and like one of

2491
01:32:44,950 --> 01:32:43,120
the videos took place in an area where i

2492
01:32:46,470 --> 01:32:44,960
used to work like i knew the area really

2493
01:32:48,229 --> 01:32:46,480
in fact i actually rode my bike

2494
01:32:49,669 --> 01:32:48,239
with my girlfriend down there you know a

2495
01:32:50,950 --> 01:32:49,679
few months before that

2496
01:32:52,310 --> 01:32:50,960
you know so i knew the area well but

2497
01:32:53,590 --> 01:32:52,320
these guys were shooting and you even

2498
01:32:55,110 --> 01:32:53,600
heard the bullets like

2499
01:32:56,390 --> 01:32:55,120
you know bouncing off like you know like

2500
01:32:57,590 --> 01:32:56,400
the sound effect you hear in the movie

2501
01:32:58,709 --> 01:32:57,600
you actually heard the real thing in

2502
01:33:01,110 --> 01:32:58,719
these videos

2503
01:33:02,550 --> 01:33:01,120
on these cell phone videos so it was

2504
01:33:03,990 --> 01:33:02,560
really strange to see like police

2505
01:33:05,990 --> 01:33:04,000
shooting at unarmed people and there

2506
01:33:07,669 --> 01:33:06,000
wasn't a lot of evidence showing

2507
01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:07,679
protesters shooting at police it was

2508
01:33:11,830 --> 01:33:09,760
more police shooting at protesters

2509
01:33:13,110 --> 01:33:11,840
but there are also videos of police

2510
01:33:14,950 --> 01:33:13,120
helping too so the

2511
01:33:16,709 --> 01:33:14,960
like where i was the police weren't even

2512
01:33:18,629 --> 01:33:16,719
present like it was almost like complete

2513
01:33:22,310 --> 01:33:18,639
anarchy i never saw the police

2514
01:33:22,950 --> 01:33:22,320
rarely um so you have that you also had

2515
01:33:24,470 --> 01:33:22,960
like

2516
01:33:26,070 --> 01:33:24,480
paramilitary that was said to be

2517
01:33:28,470 --> 01:33:26,080
descending in the city so

2518
01:33:30,310 --> 01:33:28,480
and then the military was brought in but

2519
01:33:32,229 --> 01:33:30,320
coal and then like civilians would block

2520
01:33:33,910 --> 01:33:32,239
the roads too and burn tires

2521
01:33:35,030 --> 01:33:33,920
and then something happened to where

2522
01:33:36,229 --> 01:33:35,040
they said like the government in

2523
01:33:38,070 --> 01:33:36,239
colombia said like

2524
01:33:39,990 --> 01:33:38,080
well we have this law where we can't

2525
01:33:41,669 --> 01:33:40,000
allow like the military or the police to

2526
01:33:43,830 --> 01:33:41,679
like really interfere

2527
01:33:45,189 --> 01:33:43,840
with like blockades and stuff so they

2528
01:33:47,110 --> 01:33:45,199
didn't so that was

2529
01:33:48,870 --> 01:33:47,120
it was it was the first time i'd been in

2530
01:33:50,470 --> 01:33:48,880
a place where i was like oh my god like

2531
01:33:52,629 --> 01:33:50,480
there's absolutely like

2532
01:33:54,070 --> 01:33:52,639
no control here like the government here

2533
01:33:55,590 --> 01:33:54,080
has no control the mayor looks

2534
01:33:59,590 --> 01:33:55,600
completely helpless

2535
01:34:01,590 --> 01:33:59,600
and uh it and yeah it got it got messy

2536
01:34:03,430 --> 01:34:01,600
wow well rick i don't want to change the

2537
01:34:04,070 --> 01:34:03,440
gear on you here but so you lived there

2538
01:34:07,750 --> 01:34:04,080
for quite

2539
01:34:09,590 --> 01:34:07,760
quite a bit so you know for this

2540
01:34:10,950 --> 01:34:09,600
obviously for sake of this channel

2541
01:34:13,510 --> 01:34:10,960
wanted to ask you

2542
01:34:15,030 --> 01:34:13,520
what are what is people's mindset in

2543
01:34:17,189 --> 01:34:15,040
general if you ever got into it

2544
01:34:18,149 --> 01:34:17,199
regarding ufos and ghosts and all this

2545
01:34:20,550 --> 01:34:18,159
other stuff that

2546
01:34:23,590 --> 01:34:20,560
that we talk on this show in generally

2547
01:34:26,790 --> 01:34:23,600
can you speak maybe a little bit on that

2548
01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:26,800
um i mean colombians um i didn't talk to

2549
01:34:29,830 --> 01:34:28,560
too many colombians i have a venezuelan

2550
01:34:33,030 --> 01:34:29,840
friend who's very interested

2551
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:33,040
in all that stuff um but there's a lot

2552
01:34:36,629 --> 01:34:34,800
more foreigners i think from like

2553
01:34:38,310 --> 01:34:36,639
europe who kind of laugh at us because

2554
01:34:40,390 --> 01:34:38,320
they're like oh ufos

2555
01:34:42,790 --> 01:34:40,400
that's such a us thing like they think

2556
01:34:44,229 --> 01:34:42,800
that's like so i don't really know i get

2557
01:34:45,510 --> 01:34:44,239
the idea that we're kind of laughed at

2558
01:34:46,709 --> 01:34:45,520
by some other countries in the world

2559
01:34:48,550 --> 01:34:46,719
because we're so

2560
01:34:50,070 --> 01:34:48,560
you know crazy about it i mean obviously

2561
01:34:51,669 --> 01:34:50,080
you have people who call in on this show

2562
01:34:53,430 --> 01:34:51,679
and who are members of this show who

2563
01:34:55,189 --> 01:34:53,440
are in other parts of the world but the

2564
01:34:57,030 --> 01:34:55,199
people that i met seem to have this idea

2565
01:34:58,629 --> 01:34:57,040
that it's it's a it's a us thing to be

2566
01:35:00,550 --> 01:34:58,639
so crazy about ufos

2567
01:35:02,950 --> 01:35:00,560
and this was specifically a colombian

2568
01:35:06,070 --> 01:35:04,629
no this was more people from like europe

2569
01:35:07,510 --> 01:35:06,080
that i met because i met lots of

2570
01:35:09,270 --> 01:35:07,520
different travelers in colombia

2571
01:35:10,629 --> 01:35:09,280
um and yeah i got that a lot i got it oh

2572
01:35:12,790 --> 01:35:10,639
that's not i meant like

2573
01:35:13,669 --> 01:35:12,800
did you have an opportunity to actually

2574
01:35:18,070 --> 01:35:13,679
you know

2575
01:35:19,910 --> 01:35:18,080
the people living there not just the

2576
01:35:21,590 --> 01:35:19,920
the the foreigners visiting of course we

2577
01:35:23,189 --> 01:35:21,600
know what europe's point of view is and

2578
01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:23,199
you know europe united states always

2579
01:35:27,750 --> 01:35:25,840
going to be button heads

2580
01:35:29,910 --> 01:35:27,760
right no actually i didn't really talk

2581
01:35:32,070 --> 01:35:29,920
to any colombians about it

2582
01:35:34,629 --> 01:35:32,080
okay yeah all right i figured i'll just

2583
01:35:37,510 --> 01:35:34,639
ask because i know uh um

2584
01:35:39,830 --> 01:35:37,520
uh maybe soon i might have um red pill

2585
01:35:41,109 --> 01:35:39,840
junkie back on he's in mexico city i

2586
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:41,119
believe

2587
01:35:44,390 --> 01:35:43,920
and so we talk about just you know more

2588
01:35:46,550 --> 01:35:44,400
of

2589
01:35:47,910 --> 01:35:46,560
the ufos and the mexican perspective

2590
01:35:50,470 --> 01:35:47,920
just basically because he's

2591
01:35:51,590 --> 01:35:50,480
a researcher but in mexico and and just

2592
01:35:53,990 --> 01:35:51,600
talking about

2593
01:35:55,270 --> 01:35:54,000
um from you know like i said from the

2594
01:35:58,310 --> 01:35:55,280
mexican point of view

2595
01:36:00,310 --> 01:35:58,320
about what what ufos are and and

2596
01:36:01,990 --> 01:36:00,320
um it just seems like things are a lot

2597
01:36:03,109 --> 01:36:02,000
more open you know what's really weird

2598
01:36:05,830 --> 01:36:03,119
is that

2599
01:36:06,709 --> 01:36:05,840
like for example in bosnia they're very

2600
01:36:11,430 --> 01:36:06,719
much into

2601
01:36:13,510 --> 01:36:11,440
ufos and stuff

2602
01:36:14,709 --> 01:36:13,520
you know so for example like they would

2603
01:36:17,830 --> 01:36:14,719
often talk about

2604
01:36:19,510 --> 01:36:17,840
uh premonitions you know and you know i

2605
01:36:21,189 --> 01:36:19,520
remember there would always be stories

2606
01:36:23,350 --> 01:36:21,199
you know farmers and even

2607
01:36:24,629 --> 01:36:23,360
you know um on my mom's side you know

2608
01:36:26,550 --> 01:36:24,639
it's uh

2609
01:36:28,149 --> 01:36:26,560
they're basically just you know farmers

2610
01:36:30,470 --> 01:36:28,159
and living off the land so

2611
01:36:31,990 --> 01:36:30,480
even when i was a kid and and visiting

2612
01:36:33,590 --> 01:36:32,000
there'll always be stories it's like i

2613
01:36:35,590 --> 01:36:33,600
was working on the field

2614
01:36:37,750 --> 01:36:35,600
you know and there was this you know man

2615
01:36:40,390 --> 01:36:37,760
with the sickle and cutting grass but

2616
01:36:41,910 --> 01:36:40,400
you know you know no grass was moving

2617
01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:41,920
you know and all this other stuff you

2618
01:36:44,390 --> 01:36:42,960
know they would always

2619
01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:44,400
talk about this and they very much

2620
01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:46,560
believed into that but then when you you

2621
01:36:49,189 --> 01:36:47,520
know ufos

2622
01:36:51,109 --> 01:36:49,199
anything like that was not prevalent

2623
01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:51,119
whatsoever you know and

2624
01:36:54,790 --> 01:36:52,719
um then of course there's all these

2625
01:36:56,310 --> 01:36:54,800
different um um

2626
01:36:58,149 --> 01:36:56,320
you know sometimes a lot of times the

2627
01:37:01,430 --> 01:36:58,159
religion and culture

2628
01:37:03,750 --> 01:37:01,440
mesh because especially in because

2629
01:37:06,070 --> 01:37:03,760
if you look at islam and then you look

2630
01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:06,080
at bosnians in general because most

2631
01:37:13,830 --> 01:37:09,600
most uh um bosnians you have

2632
01:37:17,030 --> 01:37:13,840
uh bosnian muslims you have bosnia um

2633
01:37:21,430 --> 01:37:17,040
catholics and uh bosnian orthodox

2634
01:37:24,629 --> 01:37:21,440
and so they a christian orthodox so

2635
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:24,639
there's they intertwined the culture

2636
01:37:29,750 --> 01:37:28,000
and intertwine um uh religion

2637
01:37:32,310 --> 01:37:29,760
so sometimes you can't differentiate

2638
01:37:34,229 --> 01:37:32,320
like is this part of your religion

2639
01:37:37,109 --> 01:37:34,239
or is this because it's like nowhere in

2640
01:37:39,270 --> 01:37:37,119
koran does it say that when you

2641
01:37:41,270 --> 01:37:39,280
you know like i remember my grandma she

2642
01:37:42,790 --> 01:37:41,280
would used to drive me nuts you know

2643
01:37:44,550 --> 01:37:42,800
especially when i was a kid

2644
01:37:46,390 --> 01:37:44,560
you have to if i was putting on my pants

2645
01:37:49,830 --> 01:37:46,400
i had to put my right leg through

2646
01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:49,840
the the pants uh leg first then the left

2647
01:37:53,910 --> 01:37:52,000
you know if i was putting on the shirt

2648
01:37:55,430 --> 01:37:53,920
my right hand go through the shirt first

2649
01:37:57,830 --> 01:37:55,440
then my left because

2650
01:37:58,709 --> 01:37:57,840
you know um you will tempt the devil you

2651
01:38:01,350 --> 01:37:58,719
know if you do it

2652
01:38:03,270 --> 01:38:01,360
you will put your your left hand you

2653
01:38:04,629 --> 01:38:03,280
know through your shirt first and

2654
01:38:06,390 --> 01:38:04,639
there's all this other stuff if you're

2655
01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:06,400
getting out of bed you put your right

2656
01:38:09,910 --> 01:38:08,560
leg on the floor first that so you start

2657
01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:09,920
out the right way

2658
01:38:13,189 --> 01:38:12,080
you know in your day and it seems so

2659
01:38:15,350 --> 01:38:13,199
silly now but

2660
01:38:17,109 --> 01:38:15,360
there's people still parts of that

2661
01:38:19,830 --> 01:38:17,119
especially the older generation not

2662
01:38:20,310 --> 01:38:19,840
not the younger generation so much but

2663
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:20,320
they're

2664
01:38:26,629 --> 01:38:23,760
very much into that and and there's

2665
01:38:27,109 --> 01:38:26,639
always a basis and a reason for for that

2666
01:38:30,550 --> 01:38:27,119
stuff

2667
01:38:31,030 --> 01:38:30,560
you know and somehow it intertwined

2668
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:31,040
itself

2669
01:38:34,470 --> 01:38:32,880
into cultural and religious sometimes

2670
01:38:37,189 --> 01:38:34,480
you can't differentiate

2671
01:38:37,669 --> 01:38:37,199
you know you like you know to you don't

2672
01:38:42,830 --> 01:38:37,679
know what

2673
01:38:50,070 --> 01:38:45,910
yeah yeah but uh yeah

2674
01:38:55,189 --> 01:38:53,270
no that's interesting but

2675
01:38:56,390 --> 01:38:55,199
yeah um i mean you know of course like

2676
01:38:57,109 --> 01:38:56,400
you know well you know your caller

2677
01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:57,119
before like

2678
01:39:00,629 --> 01:38:58,960
ken uh your guest you had you know

2679
01:39:02,470 --> 01:39:00,639
mentioning machu picchu and stuff you

2680
01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:02,480
know you get into like south america

2681
01:39:06,790 --> 01:39:04,320
and start seeing places like that that's

2682
01:39:08,550 --> 01:39:06,800
um it's really interesting it's

2683
01:39:09,990 --> 01:39:08,560
it's quite a peculiar feeling to be in a

2684
01:39:12,709 --> 01:39:10,000
place like that

2685
01:39:13,430 --> 01:39:12,719
um because especially a place like machu

2686
01:39:16,709 --> 01:39:13,440
picchu

2687
01:39:19,109 --> 01:39:16,719
spanish they didn't they

2688
01:39:20,629 --> 01:39:19,119
like kind of missed it uh and it's like

2689
01:39:23,430 --> 01:39:20,639
a very mysterious place

2690
01:39:24,629 --> 01:39:23,440
you know so it's to see that it's like

2691
01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:24,639
oh wow what

2692
01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:27,840
happened here that's the large structure

2693
01:39:31,990 --> 01:39:30,480
uh uh on top of a mountain basically

2694
01:39:33,990 --> 01:39:32,000
right

2695
01:39:35,510 --> 01:39:34,000
well yeah well i mean it's a village on

2696
01:39:36,870 --> 01:39:35,520
top of a mountain yeah and then there's

2697
01:39:38,709 --> 01:39:36,880
other structures too

2698
01:39:40,709 --> 01:39:38,719
right yeah um but what's really

2699
01:39:43,830 --> 01:39:40,719
interesting is in the city of cusco

2700
01:39:44,790 --> 01:39:43,840
um which is where the um was it was the

2701
01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:44,800
incas yeah

2702
01:39:48,629 --> 01:39:46,880
um it was like an inca village before

2703
01:39:51,109 --> 01:39:48,639
your facebook page

2704
01:39:55,430 --> 01:39:51,119
and and show just that picture is that

2705
01:39:57,030 --> 01:39:55,440
okay i won't show much of your profile

2706
01:39:58,629 --> 01:39:57,040
i don't know just to give people an idea

2707
01:40:01,030 --> 01:39:58,639
because that's pretty cool actually

2708
01:40:02,790 --> 01:40:01,040
that picture it's like and i guess

2709
01:40:06,070 --> 01:40:02,800
others have told you that too that's

2710
01:40:07,669 --> 01:40:06,080
probably one of their favorite uh

2711
01:40:09,270 --> 01:40:07,679
well of course i dressed up to look the

2712
01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:09,280
part you know i've got my colombian hat

2713
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:10,880
and one of those ponchos like look at me

2714
01:40:13,109 --> 01:40:11,199
and i

2715
01:40:14,629 --> 01:40:13,119
had to get the signature photo that

2716
01:40:15,910 --> 01:40:14,639
everybody gets when they go there but

2717
01:40:17,669 --> 01:40:15,920
you know now i got mine

2718
01:40:19,030 --> 01:40:17,679
but um you two are almost really

2719
01:40:21,030 --> 01:40:19,040
interesting though

2720
01:40:22,629 --> 01:40:21,040
yeah yeah you know i did i remember

2721
01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:22,639
something like japanese people like came

2722
01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:24,239
up to be like oh can you can we get your

2723
01:40:27,430 --> 01:40:24,960
picture

2724
01:40:28,149 --> 01:40:27,440
okay cool yeah i'm just walking around

2725
01:40:30,870 --> 01:40:28,159
by myself

2726
01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:30,880
sorry again you change your profile

2727
01:40:35,990 --> 01:40:33,119
picture

2728
01:40:37,990 --> 01:40:36,000
oh um what do i look like now oh that's

2729
01:40:40,310 --> 01:40:38,000
like me wearing some sunglasses behind

2730
01:40:41,590 --> 01:40:40,320
or something like that now uh breaks the

2731
01:40:44,950 --> 01:40:41,600
d3 that's my

2732
01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:44,960
proof um so anyway in cusco

2733
01:40:48,950 --> 01:40:47,600
um they um so when the spanish came

2734
01:40:51,109 --> 01:40:48,960
through and they have a lot of this is

2735
01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:51,119
in mexico too the same type of thing

2736
01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:54,000
um like they destroyed this this village

2737
01:40:57,109 --> 01:40:54,480
and

2738
01:40:58,470 --> 01:40:57,119
they built their structures on top of

2739
01:41:01,350 --> 01:40:58,480
the the incan

2740
01:41:02,629 --> 01:41:01,360
uh the incan bases and so when you go to

2741
01:41:04,629 --> 01:41:02,639
cusco yeah you have like

2742
01:41:06,550 --> 01:41:04,639
the spanish architecture and then the

2743
01:41:08,870 --> 01:41:06,560
base of it are these large

2744
01:41:09,910 --> 01:41:08,880
large boulders and the reason they did

2745
01:41:13,189 --> 01:41:09,920
that is because

2746
01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:13,199
the the incas had found a way to build

2747
01:41:16,390 --> 01:41:15,360
structures that were like impervious to

2748
01:41:18,629 --> 01:41:16,400
earthquakes

2749
01:41:20,390 --> 01:41:18,639
and the spanish knew that but then they

2750
01:41:21,910 --> 01:41:20,400
were the spanish like to build their

2751
01:41:23,510 --> 01:41:21,920
stuff on top of everything to kind of

2752
01:41:25,030 --> 01:41:23,520
like show everybody hey look you know we

2753
01:41:27,750 --> 01:41:25,040
took over your stuff

2754
01:41:29,669 --> 01:41:27,760
but those bases are still like that so

2755
01:41:30,870 --> 01:41:29,679
they built on top of those bases

2756
01:41:32,229 --> 01:41:30,880
because they're impervious to

2757
01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:32,239
earthquakes and it's just interesting

2758
01:41:36,149 --> 01:41:34,000
that the incas had that kind of

2759
01:41:38,390 --> 01:41:36,159
knowledge and that kind of technology

2760
01:41:39,270 --> 01:41:38,400
with something that looks primitive um

2761
01:41:41,189 --> 01:41:39,280
right

2762
01:41:45,510 --> 01:41:41,199
that just blew my mind when i saw that

2763
01:41:53,510 --> 01:41:49,270
okay let me see here okay i had lost

2764
01:41:58,790 --> 01:41:56,950
but i think i'm back now

2765
01:42:00,470 --> 01:41:58,800
okay there you are yeah that's i'm

2766
01:42:01,669 --> 01:42:00,480
showing a picture of you standing there

2767
01:42:04,149 --> 01:42:01,679
with your

2768
01:42:05,830 --> 01:42:04,159
very um i don't know what what do you

2769
01:42:08,870 --> 01:42:05,840
call that off is that the

2770
01:42:10,070 --> 01:42:08,880
chilean outfits is that

2771
01:42:12,070 --> 01:42:10,080
the thing that i'm wearing with the

2772
01:42:13,750 --> 01:42:12,080
machu picchu picture yeah

2773
01:42:15,990 --> 01:42:13,760
you have a hat and you're staring off

2774
01:42:18,229 --> 01:42:16,000
into the mountains

2775
01:42:19,669 --> 01:42:18,239
oh that's well let's see well i've got a

2776
01:42:21,669 --> 01:42:19,679
kalian hat

2777
01:42:23,910 --> 01:42:21,679
a poncho that i bought in a small

2778
01:42:26,709 --> 01:42:23,920
village in peru in an rei backpack

2779
01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:26,719
so i don't think that's uh that's just a

2780
01:42:31,750 --> 01:42:28,719
rexella attire that's

2781
01:42:33,510 --> 01:42:31,760
nothing nothing uh yeah it's a beautiful

2782
01:42:34,870 --> 01:42:33,520
picture you're just looking over so

2783
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:34,880
these structures are the ones you're

2784
01:42:39,669 --> 01:42:36,320
referring to that made it more

2785
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:39,679
impervious to earthquakes

2786
01:42:42,870 --> 01:42:42,000
some of those yeah well those well i

2787
01:42:44,229 --> 01:42:42,880
mean those are still

2788
01:42:45,990 --> 01:42:44,239
there's a lot of restoration there no

2789
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:46,000
the ones i'm talking about are actual

2790
01:42:51,189 --> 01:42:48,800
functioning buildings in cusco like in

2791
01:42:51,830 --> 01:42:51,199
the city of cusco like the city of cusco

2792
01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:51,840
is like

2793
01:42:55,189 --> 01:42:53,360
down near the bay well it's not at the

2794
01:42:55,990 --> 01:42:55,199
base of machu picchu but it's near machu

2795
01:42:57,510 --> 01:42:56,000
picchu

2796
01:42:58,950 --> 01:42:57,520
and all those buildings like you know

2797
01:42:59,830 --> 01:42:58,960
they've got shops and restaurants and

2798
01:43:01,910 --> 01:42:59,840
things in them but

2799
01:43:04,149 --> 01:43:01,920
there's still there's old spanish

2800
01:43:07,030 --> 01:43:04,159
buildings that are on top of

2801
01:43:08,229 --> 01:43:07,040
incan bases uh made from boulders and

2802
01:43:09,510 --> 01:43:08,239
stuff yeah they're functioning buildings

2803
01:43:12,070 --> 01:43:09,520
that you could that people still use

2804
01:43:16,950 --> 01:43:14,870
right what about um what while you were

2805
01:43:17,669 --> 01:43:16,960
there were there any kind of discussions

2806
01:43:20,390 --> 01:43:17,679
about

2807
01:43:20,790 --> 01:43:20,400
um you know who might have built this is

2808
01:43:23,189 --> 01:43:20,800
there

2809
01:43:24,470 --> 01:43:23,199
you know a pretty good document a

2810
01:43:27,189 --> 01:43:24,480
documented event

2811
01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:27,199
who um who built them or if is there

2812
01:43:32,229 --> 01:43:29,199
some mystery around it that

2813
01:43:34,229 --> 01:43:32,239
you know you know as to who well they're

2814
01:43:36,310 --> 01:43:34,239
there i think they're pretty they're

2815
01:43:38,070 --> 01:43:36,320
pretty certain that it was the incas

2816
01:43:40,470 --> 01:43:38,080
um because the inca's occupied that

2817
01:43:41,030 --> 01:43:40,480
whole area but they don't know exactly

2818
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:41,040
what

2819
01:43:45,430 --> 01:43:43,679
the purpose of machu picchu was they

2820
01:43:46,709 --> 01:43:45,440
don't have any idea there's there's

2821
01:43:48,790 --> 01:43:46,719
theories they think that it could have

2822
01:43:50,070 --> 01:43:48,800
been a place to study astronomy it could

2823
01:43:52,870 --> 01:43:50,080
have been a place where they

2824
01:43:54,070 --> 01:43:52,880
where it was like a science study lab

2825
01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:54,080
type area but

2826
01:44:00,470 --> 01:43:56,480
they really don't have any any idea

2827
01:44:06,790 --> 01:44:03,510
right okay um

2828
01:44:08,629 --> 01:44:06,800
i just saw niels christian here

2829
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:08,639
um yeah if you're just here to ch to

2830
01:44:11,270 --> 01:44:10,800
listen awesome uh if you wanted to talk

2831
01:44:13,990 --> 01:44:11,280
to me

2832
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:14,000
um make sure you tap on the little

2833
01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:14,880
raised hand

2834
01:44:18,390 --> 01:44:17,679
guys that way i know you want to to talk

2835
01:44:20,870 --> 01:44:18,400
otherwise

2836
01:44:21,590 --> 01:44:20,880
i'm just gonna you know have rick keep

2837
01:44:24,550 --> 01:44:21,600
keep on

2838
01:44:25,189 --> 01:44:24,560
talking about his his experiences um

2839
01:44:26,709 --> 01:44:25,199
yeah just

2840
01:44:28,310 --> 01:44:26,719
some of you out there that that you

2841
01:44:29,830 --> 01:44:28,320
don't know if you come in

2842
01:44:32,149 --> 01:44:29,840
you have to raise your hand otherwise i

2843
01:44:34,229 --> 01:44:32,159
don't know that you want to speak to me

2844
01:44:36,149 --> 01:44:34,239
and so that they'll tell me oh there's

2845
01:44:37,189 --> 01:44:36,159
someone else in the queue that wants to

2846
01:44:39,109 --> 01:44:37,199
get a chance

2847
01:44:40,950 --> 01:44:39,119
otherwise i'll just whoever i'm talking

2848
01:44:44,550 --> 01:44:40,960
to at that time give him more time or

2849
01:44:48,709 --> 01:44:47,830
um well rick do you mind if i uh switch

2850
01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:48,719
over to neil

2851
01:44:51,910 --> 01:44:50,480
i really appreciate you sharing your

2852
01:44:54,070 --> 01:44:51,920
stories and and

2853
01:44:55,109 --> 01:44:54,080
telling me so far what you did you know

2854
01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:55,119
and uh

2855
01:44:58,709 --> 01:44:56,719
in the future you can you know you're

2856
01:45:01,270 --> 01:44:58,719
not you know we

2857
01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:01,280
as people will see tomorrow during the

2858
01:45:05,830 --> 01:45:02,800
um

2859
01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:05,840
during the psychedelic experiences uh

2860
01:45:11,990 --> 01:45:08,960
myself rick and nathan

2861
01:45:14,950 --> 01:45:12,000
they're kind of like the triad

2862
01:45:15,990 --> 01:45:14,960
experiencer group you know we each one

2863
01:45:18,310 --> 01:45:16,000
of us had our own

2864
01:45:19,910 --> 01:45:18,320
individual experiences but we also had

2865
01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:19,920
some collective experiences which you

2866
01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:21,679
will hear about it tomorrow

2867
01:45:24,709 --> 01:45:23,840
and so you really get to know a person

2868
01:45:26,390 --> 01:45:24,719
very well

2869
01:45:28,229 --> 01:45:26,400
and when you've been to these crazy

2870
01:45:29,510 --> 01:45:28,239
places of psychedelics with others i

2871
01:45:31,830 --> 01:45:29,520
mean it creates a bond

2872
01:45:33,350 --> 01:45:31,840
that i don't know if if you can describe

2873
01:45:35,669 --> 01:45:33,360
it in the same way that

2874
01:45:37,270 --> 01:45:35,679
you just you just trust a person more i

2875
01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:37,280
don't know about how you feel

2876
01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:41,760
rick yeah i agree with that for sure

2877
01:45:45,590 --> 01:45:43,760
so what i was gonna say there's plenty

2878
01:45:46,629 --> 01:45:45,600
of stuff that you and i can continue to

2879
01:45:49,109 --> 01:45:46,639
talk about

2880
01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:49,119
um especially when it's you know when

2881
01:45:53,590 --> 01:45:50,800
there's sometimes not enough

2882
01:45:55,030 --> 01:45:53,600
or not people not logging in to want to

2883
01:45:57,189 --> 01:45:55,040
share their stories because

2884
01:45:58,870 --> 01:45:57,199
you and i have a lot to talk about you

2885
01:46:00,149 --> 01:45:58,880
know to to share because we used to do

2886
01:46:01,109 --> 01:46:00,159
that all the time when i was in

2887
01:46:02,790 --> 01:46:01,119
robertsville

2888
01:46:04,390 --> 01:46:02,800
you know me and nathan or sometimes just

2889
01:46:06,950 --> 01:46:04,400
you and i and just

2890
01:46:08,070 --> 01:46:06,960
all the craziness that that happens and

2891
01:46:10,310 --> 01:46:08,080
experiences but

2892
01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:10,320
um you know there's nothing to say we

2893
01:46:13,910 --> 01:46:12,159
can't continue them doing it doing that

2894
01:46:15,669 --> 01:46:13,920
online

2895
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:15,679
yeah no of course no i appreciate you

2896
01:46:19,270 --> 01:46:17,760
let me talk about it i'm glad people

2897
01:46:20,550 --> 01:46:19,280
if people stayed and listened thanks for

2898
01:46:21,430 --> 01:46:20,560
listening and i hope you found it

2899
01:46:23,030 --> 01:46:21,440
interesting

2900
01:46:25,189 --> 01:46:23,040
yeah no thank you rick i really

2901
01:46:26,629 --> 01:46:25,199
appreciate it thank you very much

2902
01:46:28,470 --> 01:46:26,639
all right my friend yeah i'll switch

2903
01:46:31,270 --> 01:46:28,480
over to niels and

2904
01:46:35,109 --> 01:46:31,280
you know you hang tight listen or or do

2905
01:46:41,669 --> 01:46:39,030
okay rick is muted uh

2906
01:46:43,430 --> 01:46:41,679
niels you are unmuted on on my end and

2907
01:46:46,470 --> 01:46:43,440
mute yourself on yours and uh

2908
01:46:47,830 --> 01:46:46,480
you should be able to speak to me good

2909
01:46:51,669 --> 01:46:47,840
evening how are you

2910
01:46:55,350 --> 01:46:51,679
just find out how you doing good

2911
01:46:56,629 --> 01:46:55,360
i wanted to uh tell you about my ce5

2912
01:46:59,830 --> 01:46:56,639
experience

2913
01:47:02,390 --> 01:46:59,840
do you know about ce5 yes yes please

2914
01:47:03,350 --> 01:47:02,400
are you aware of ce5 so this is what i

2915
01:47:05,990 --> 01:47:03,360
did i went

2916
01:47:06,830 --> 01:47:06,000
to really nice campsite with my

2917
01:47:10,550 --> 01:47:06,840
sweetheart

2918
01:47:11,750 --> 01:47:10,560
and basically i got the campsite i saw

2919
01:47:15,910 --> 01:47:11,760
this

2920
01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:15,920
ball of light

2921
01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:18,400
fly up the lake and it was almost like

2922
01:47:23,350 --> 01:47:20,960
at a 15 degree angle kind of thing

2923
01:47:25,430 --> 01:47:23,360
and uh just rip up the lake at night

2924
01:47:26,950 --> 01:47:25,440
time and so i knew something special

2925
01:47:30,470 --> 01:47:26,960
what's going on with that

2926
01:47:33,350 --> 01:47:30,480
and so um that that night

2927
01:47:36,229 --> 01:47:33,360
like in the camper i basically uh

2928
01:47:39,109 --> 01:47:36,239
started doing my breathing exercises

2929
01:47:41,910 --> 01:47:39,119
so you know five seconds in five seconds

2930
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:41,920
out all the way up to maybe 10 or 15

2931
01:47:47,750 --> 01:47:45,040
to go into you know an oxygen-rich

2932
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:47,760
state and allow you know your your dmt

2933
01:47:53,590 --> 01:47:49,679
to release into your body

2934
01:47:56,149 --> 01:47:53,600
if you don't from your mind and so

2935
01:47:58,310 --> 01:47:56,159
what i did next was i just filled up my

2936
01:48:01,830 --> 01:47:58,320
my mind my spirit with like

2937
01:48:05,270 --> 01:48:01,840
the feeling of love and of unity and

2938
01:48:08,229 --> 01:48:05,280
you know understanding and welcoming and

2939
01:48:09,510 --> 01:48:08,239
you know i just basked on those for for

2940
01:48:10,950 --> 01:48:09,520
quite some time and

2941
01:48:12,790 --> 01:48:10,960
and then basically what i did was i

2942
01:48:15,109 --> 01:48:12,800
showed in my mind

2943
01:48:17,350 --> 01:48:15,119
then the andromeda galaxy you know i

2944
01:48:21,830 --> 01:48:17,360
looked at my mind's eye

2945
01:48:23,109 --> 01:48:21,840
uh basically looked kind of visualized

2946
01:48:24,870 --> 01:48:23,119
being on the edge of the andromeda

2947
01:48:27,669 --> 01:48:24,880
galaxy uh

2948
01:48:29,990 --> 01:48:27,679
and then our solar system with the sun

2949
01:48:33,030 --> 01:48:30,000
and visiting all the different planets

2950
01:48:35,109 --> 01:48:33,040
and then earth and then to the

2951
01:48:37,590 --> 01:48:35,119
continent you know right down to your

2952
01:48:39,669 --> 01:48:37,600
location for the macro to the micro

2953
01:48:40,709 --> 01:48:39,679
and then i just fell asleep and then uh

2954
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:40,719
the next night

2955
01:48:43,669 --> 01:48:42,159
we didn't think too much of it he went

2956
01:48:44,950 --> 01:48:43,679
fishing and could doing had a great day

2957
01:48:46,149 --> 01:48:44,960
whatever

2958
01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:46,159
and i was ready to go to bed and all of

2959
01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:49,119
a sudden i see this like uh

2960
01:48:52,790 --> 01:48:52,320
red kind of ball coming down the lake

2961
01:48:55,750 --> 01:48:52,800
the same

2962
01:48:57,270 --> 01:48:55,760
direction the other one went kind of low

2963
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:57,280
and i thought to myself

2964
01:49:02,709 --> 01:49:00,480
this is an airplane like what there's no

2965
01:49:04,229 --> 01:49:02,719
airport around here this is not what is

2966
01:49:05,430 --> 01:49:04,239
this like so i said to my sweetheart i

2967
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:05,440
said let's go let's go to the beach and

2968
01:49:10,229 --> 01:49:07,440
fortune we got this campsite

2969
01:49:11,510 --> 01:49:10,239
and we quickly uh ran to the uh the

2970
01:49:14,790 --> 01:49:11,520
beach i was super close

2971
01:49:17,830 --> 01:49:14,800
and this object uh it was

2972
01:49:21,430 --> 01:49:17,840
um if you know like 4k tv this was like

2973
01:49:22,070 --> 01:49:21,440
1000k tv kind of thing so the richness

2974
01:49:25,270 --> 01:49:22,080
of this

2975
01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:25,280
incredible

2976
01:49:29,510 --> 01:49:27,360
and so it was um it was like a

2977
01:49:31,430 --> 01:49:29,520
horizontal egg but a fat egg kind of

2978
01:49:34,550 --> 01:49:31,440
thing it was about 50 feet wide

2979
01:49:38,310 --> 01:49:34,560
and it was about 150 feet above us

2980
01:49:40,470 --> 01:49:38,320
and just simply went over top of us

2981
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:40,480
and then for about about a minute slowly

2982
01:49:44,229 --> 01:49:42,400
go on top of us silently

2983
01:49:46,229 --> 01:49:44,239
and it was orange and red and it had

2984
01:49:48,470 --> 01:49:46,239
like this um

2985
01:49:49,669 --> 01:49:48,480
basically it was two sections where the

2986
01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:49,679
lower section

2987
01:49:52,870 --> 01:49:51,280
of the the orange was rounded at the

2988
01:49:54,149 --> 01:49:52,880
bottom um

2989
01:49:56,310 --> 01:49:54,159
if you can envision that so it's kind of

2990
01:49:56,870 --> 01:49:56,320
off-centered like a smile almost at the

2991
01:50:02,870 --> 01:49:56,880
bottom

2992
01:50:03,910 --> 01:50:02,880
i just did a right turn and just shot

2993
01:50:06,070 --> 01:50:03,920
into the night sky

2994
01:50:08,070 --> 01:50:06,080
like and i've never seen anything ever

2995
01:50:11,109 --> 01:50:08,080
move it was like star trek

2996
01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:11,119
how it took off 45 degree angle

2997
01:50:13,589 --> 01:50:12,560
and so other people came to the beach

2998
01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:13,599
and they're like what happened i just

2999
01:50:16,629 --> 01:50:15,119
pulled straight up and i was all

3000
01:50:19,109 --> 01:50:16,639
we're overwhelmed laying the beach and

3001
01:50:21,030 --> 01:50:19,119
just cried looking at the stars and

3002
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:21,040
it's funny the next morning because of

3003
01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:22,960
the campsite it's really quiet

3004
01:50:27,189 --> 01:50:24,800
people across from us were already gone

3005
01:50:28,310 --> 01:50:27,199
they must have not slept a minute and

3006
01:50:29,350 --> 01:50:28,320
then

3007
01:50:31,990 --> 01:50:29,360
they were gone first thing in the

3008
01:50:35,510 --> 01:50:32,000
morning and yeah that was incredible uh

3009
01:50:37,430 --> 01:50:35,520
incredible experience oh wow

3010
01:50:38,709 --> 01:50:37,440
well thank you for sharing that so do

3011
01:50:41,910 --> 01:50:38,719
you do dc

3012
01:50:45,109 --> 01:50:41,920
uh five sessions often or was this just

3013
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:47,910
well i've done similar ones can i ask

3014
01:50:51,270 --> 01:50:48,800
you a quick question

3015
01:50:52,790 --> 01:50:51,280
um so are you are you on your phone

3016
01:50:55,270 --> 01:50:52,800
right now

3017
01:50:57,030 --> 01:50:55,280
yes okay uh is there any way you can

3018
01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:57,040
kind of hold your phone to the side of

3019
01:51:00,790 --> 01:50:59,040
your mouth but speak into just straight

3020
01:51:05,030 --> 01:51:00,800
forward so you're not directly

3021
01:51:08,870 --> 01:51:07,270
perfect thank you yeah no yeah no that

3022
01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:08,880
was it's great yeah because it was too

3023
01:51:13,350 --> 01:51:10,880
much of the the wind hitting the mic

3024
01:51:14,470 --> 01:51:13,360
okay moving along a lot cleaner now no

3025
01:51:18,149 --> 01:51:14,480
problem

3026
01:51:21,109 --> 01:51:18,159
saying uh

3027
01:51:21,990 --> 01:51:21,119
these do you see do the ce5 sessions

3028
01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:22,000
often or is this

3029
01:51:27,750 --> 01:51:25,280
just a one-off thing uh

3030
01:51:28,470 --> 01:51:27,760
well i've done a guided meditation uh

3031
01:51:30,550 --> 01:51:28,480
basically

3032
01:51:32,390 --> 01:51:30,560
two uh two friends that were sincere

3033
01:51:34,470 --> 01:51:32,400
about you know learning about meditation

3034
01:51:36,870 --> 01:51:34,480
so i played uh

3035
01:51:38,149 --> 01:51:36,880
it's called his name is stephen halpern

3036
01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:38,159
and he did a

3037
01:51:42,310 --> 01:51:41,040
recording the great pyramid you can

3038
01:51:44,550 --> 01:51:42,320
youtube him

3039
01:51:46,229 --> 01:51:44,560
chanting uh the ohm frequency basically

3040
01:51:47,030 --> 01:51:46,239
so i did a guided meditation did some

3041
01:51:49,109 --> 01:51:47,040
home

3042
01:51:50,790 --> 01:51:49,119
i gave them direction how to do their

3043
01:51:52,310 --> 01:51:50,800
own meditation and then i did my own

3044
01:51:55,270 --> 01:51:52,320
meditation this

3045
01:51:56,070 --> 01:51:55,280
yellow ball of light basically uh

3046
01:51:58,709 --> 01:51:56,080
appeared

3047
01:51:59,589 --> 01:51:58,719
at the uh on the lake and just slowly

3048
01:52:01,910 --> 01:51:59,599
went up the lake

3049
01:52:03,589 --> 01:52:01,920
like it was like an angelic type of

3050
01:52:05,510 --> 01:52:03,599
angelic type of ball

3051
01:52:07,430 --> 01:52:05,520
like you'd see like the angel on top of

3052
01:52:09,910 --> 01:52:07,440
a christmas tree

3053
01:52:10,950 --> 01:52:09,920
so what's what's going to go into your

3054
01:52:17,510 --> 01:52:10,960
mind while

3055
01:52:19,510 --> 01:52:17,520
before you witness this physically

3056
01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:19,520
well what's going through my mind well

3057
01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:21,280
that was manifestation

3058
01:52:24,950 --> 01:52:23,119
that incident was manifestation all of a

3059
01:52:25,990 --> 01:52:24,960
sudden this ball of light appeared after

3060
01:52:28,070 --> 01:52:26,000
we did this

3061
01:52:30,149 --> 01:52:28,080
guided meditation and everything it's

3062
01:52:32,629 --> 01:52:30,159
just goodness you know and

3063
01:52:33,510 --> 01:52:32,639
and uh you know it's going through c5

3064
01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:33,520
and

3065
01:52:37,669 --> 01:52:35,679
you know i can't exactly recall what i

3066
01:52:40,870 --> 01:52:37,679
was doing but uh

3067
01:52:43,910 --> 01:52:40,880
you know it's just pure intent right and

3068
01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:43,920
you know sincere it's your understanding

3069
01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:44,400
and

3070
01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:51,119
what's what's possible really what's you

3071
01:52:53,669 --> 01:52:52,080
know what's what are we

3072
01:52:55,589 --> 01:52:53,679
possible as human beings and what's

3073
01:52:58,870 --> 01:52:55,599
really going on here

3074
01:52:59,910 --> 01:52:58,880
you know what what makes what made you

3075
01:53:03,109 --> 01:52:59,920
want to uh

3076
01:53:05,189 --> 01:53:03,119
uh start with the c5 was it something

3077
01:53:06,550 --> 01:53:05,199
that you were watching or read about or

3078
01:53:08,550 --> 01:53:06,560
can you tell me a little bit more about

3079
01:53:10,229 --> 01:53:08,560
well well

3080
01:53:12,310 --> 01:53:10,239
well i think i've always thought like

3081
01:53:13,030 --> 01:53:12,320
hey i was raising the you know the

3082
01:53:17,669 --> 01:53:13,040
christian

3083
01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:17,679
there's something more

3084
01:53:23,430 --> 01:53:21,040
than the bible was was talking about and

3085
01:53:25,270 --> 01:53:23,440
uh so i was 14 years old sleeping in the

3086
01:53:27,430 --> 01:53:25,280
basement one time i

3087
01:53:29,510 --> 01:53:27,440
i woke up and i couldn't move it's never

3088
01:53:30,390 --> 01:53:29,520
happened before it hasn't happened since

3089
01:53:32,229 --> 01:53:30,400
right

3090
01:53:33,589 --> 01:53:32,239
and i couldn't move and i'm pretty sure

3091
01:53:34,390 --> 01:53:33,599
there was some beings behind me in the

3092
01:53:36,709 --> 01:53:34,400
room

3093
01:53:38,229 --> 01:53:36,719
and then one got closer to me and i like

3094
01:53:41,350 --> 01:53:38,239
i like

3095
01:53:44,390 --> 01:53:41,360
got very scared and passed out

3096
01:53:47,750 --> 01:53:44,400
and i like the fact that i couldn't move

3097
01:53:48,310 --> 01:53:47,760
so clearly you know something's going on

3098
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:48,320
right

3099
01:53:54,790 --> 01:53:53,520
so after that incident was 2013 the one

3100
01:53:58,229 --> 01:53:54,800
on the beach one

3101
01:54:00,390 --> 01:53:58,239
um the next year went to this uh

3102
01:54:02,229 --> 01:54:00,400
went to basically a nice lake spot you

3103
01:54:04,470 --> 01:54:02,239
know quiet spot and we're just

3104
01:54:05,669 --> 01:54:04,480
playing games friends and whatnot and it

3105
01:54:07,270 --> 01:54:05,679
was late at night and

3106
01:54:09,109 --> 01:54:07,280
i want to get some fresh air so we all

3107
01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:09,119
walked to the beach

3108
01:54:13,030 --> 01:54:11,280
and we're walking along the beach the

3109
01:54:15,990 --> 01:54:13,040
waves are moving all of a sudden

3110
01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:16,000
became very like magnetic and like the

3111
01:54:19,589 --> 01:54:16,800
moon

3112
01:54:21,430 --> 01:54:19,599
like drew in and the waves stopped

3113
01:54:24,550 --> 01:54:21,440
moving and all my friends stopped

3114
01:54:27,430 --> 01:54:24,560
so i go to my best buddy i said like

3115
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:27,440
why'd you stop and he there was no

3116
01:54:31,510 --> 01:54:30,080
response he was in paralysis

3117
01:54:33,910 --> 01:54:31,520
and so i waved my hands then i went to

3118
01:54:37,589 --> 01:54:33,920
the other four friends and there was no

3119
01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:37,599
no they were frozen and so i'm like what

3120
01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:37,840
the

3121
01:54:41,669 --> 01:54:40,080
[\h__\h] what's going on here my ear drums

3122
01:54:42,310 --> 01:54:41,679
out there were some you hit the mic with

3123
01:54:45,830 --> 01:54:42,320
your breath

3124
01:54:48,310 --> 01:54:45,840
hard sorry yeah you just sorry sorry

3125
01:54:49,990 --> 01:54:48,320
and then i thought um they thought

3126
01:54:52,390 --> 01:54:50,000
what's going on here why are they

3127
01:54:54,310 --> 01:54:52,400
why are they in paralysis like why is

3128
01:54:55,189 --> 01:54:54,320
this you know what is going on basically

3129
01:54:58,149 --> 01:54:55,199
right so then

3130
01:54:59,910 --> 01:54:58,159
i see in the distance these like tall

3131
01:55:02,470 --> 01:54:59,920
black figures

3132
01:55:03,350 --> 01:55:02,480
and i'm like i gotta go see what's going

3133
01:55:05,109 --> 01:55:03,360
on here

3134
01:55:06,629 --> 01:55:05,119
so i don't recall going running to them

3135
01:55:09,910 --> 01:55:06,639
or how i got there but

3136
01:55:11,669 --> 01:55:09,920
all of a sudden i i'm like a foot away

3137
01:55:15,750 --> 01:55:11,679
from this being

3138
01:55:18,709 --> 01:55:15,760
and uh you know he was both

3139
01:55:21,030 --> 01:55:18,719
probably eight eight nine feet possibly

3140
01:55:22,709 --> 01:55:21,040
just towering over me right

3141
01:55:24,390 --> 01:55:22,719
and look right in his eyes because at

3142
01:55:25,669 --> 01:55:24,400
first i was like you say like hey do you

3143
01:55:28,470 --> 01:55:25,679
know what's going on here

3144
01:55:30,149 --> 01:55:28,480
the second that i realized when i looked

3145
01:55:32,550 --> 01:55:30,159
at his eyes

3146
01:55:33,589 --> 01:55:32,560
it was it just changed my tune totally

3147
01:55:35,990 --> 01:55:33,599
and

3148
01:55:37,270 --> 01:55:36,000
i just looked his eyes basically were so

3149
01:55:39,109 --> 01:55:37,280
big

3150
01:55:40,390 --> 01:55:39,119
and the iris part like the color part in

3151
01:55:43,189 --> 01:55:40,400
people's eyes

3152
01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:43,199
was so wide and it had so many different

3153
01:55:46,870 --> 01:55:44,320
colors

3154
01:55:47,589 --> 01:55:46,880
in them there they're like uh like

3155
01:55:52,149 --> 01:55:47,599
sliced

3156
01:55:53,270 --> 01:55:52,159
there are thousands and thousands of

3157
01:55:55,589 --> 01:55:53,280
those and then

3158
01:55:56,470 --> 01:55:55,599
through golds and blues and like purples

3159
01:55:58,310 --> 01:55:56,480
and like

3160
01:56:00,470 --> 01:55:58,320
whites and just incredible and i was

3161
01:56:04,229 --> 01:56:00,480
like what is this being

3162
01:56:05,350 --> 01:56:04,239
and uh and so i just said to him who are

3163
01:56:11,430 --> 01:56:05,360
you

3164
01:56:14,629 --> 01:56:11,440
super deep voice gargle voice

3165
01:56:18,229 --> 01:56:14,639
said we can come and go whenever we want

3166
01:56:18,950 --> 01:56:18,239
nothing can stop us and then i looked at

3167
01:56:21,030 --> 01:56:18,960
his face

3168
01:56:22,149 --> 01:56:21,040
and the fact that he had like black hood

3169
01:56:25,270 --> 01:56:22,159
like a turtle neck

3170
01:56:26,830 --> 01:56:25,280
and hood and he was tall and skinny he

3171
01:56:30,070 --> 01:56:26,840
had the very like

3172
01:56:33,109 --> 01:56:30,080
um a white skin

3173
01:56:36,070 --> 01:56:33,119
like big big cheeks kind of flat

3174
01:56:36,790 --> 01:56:36,080
cheeks a small nose and the teeth

3175
01:56:40,629 --> 01:56:36,800
weren't

3176
01:56:44,550 --> 01:56:40,639
very pretty what i saw

3177
01:56:47,189 --> 01:56:44,560
and um like jagged kind of thing

3178
01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:47,199
and so i was just like what the heck and

3179
01:56:54,310 --> 01:56:47,920
then

3180
01:56:57,750 --> 01:56:55,750
all these things there's three of them

3181
01:57:00,229 --> 01:56:57,760
and triangular formation they're about

3182
01:57:01,510 --> 01:57:00,239
30 feet apart these were these are solid

3183
01:57:02,310 --> 01:57:01,520
beings just like walking to another

3184
01:57:04,390 --> 01:57:02,320
human being

3185
01:57:06,229 --> 01:57:04,400
these are these beings were there on the

3186
01:57:09,189 --> 01:57:06,239
beach and i talked to them

3187
01:57:10,390 --> 01:57:09,199
and that's reality so right you know

3188
01:57:13,030 --> 01:57:10,400
whether you're prepared or not for

3189
01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:13,040
reality that's what happened so

3190
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:14,320
you know so it's pretty it was

3191
01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:15,599
overwhelming and we went back to the

3192
01:57:18,629 --> 01:57:17,040
cottage and uh

3193
01:57:20,870 --> 01:57:18,639
we just like passed out and like i

3194
01:57:23,030 --> 01:57:20,880
didn't even talk on the way home

3195
01:57:24,070 --> 01:57:23,040
or a couple days that's that's a strange

3196
01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:24,080
part and then

3197
01:57:28,470 --> 01:57:27,520
then my sweetheart i was like it's like

3198
01:57:30,470 --> 01:57:28,480
uh

3199
01:57:32,229 --> 01:57:30,480
[\h__\h] something happened like it was

3200
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:32,239
outrageous and i told her and then

3201
01:57:35,350 --> 01:57:34,560
went to uh the party uh following

3202
01:57:36,790 --> 01:57:35,360
weekend

3203
01:57:38,390 --> 01:57:36,800
and the people were there again and i

3204
01:57:40,149 --> 01:57:38,400
just brought it up and they're like yeah

3205
01:57:42,229 --> 01:57:40,159
they just said friend just said they saw

3206
01:57:43,589 --> 01:57:42,239
me go up to these these guys in black

3207
01:57:45,109 --> 01:57:43,599
suits and that was it

3208
01:57:46,950 --> 01:57:45,119
i was like you don't recall me like

3209
01:57:50,310 --> 01:57:46,960
waving my hand in front of you like

3210
01:57:53,430 --> 01:57:50,320
being on your face no okay

3211
01:57:55,030 --> 01:57:53,440
okay then well that happened

3212
01:57:57,430 --> 01:57:55,040
so like i'm just i've seen a lot of

3213
01:58:00,629 --> 01:57:57,440
their crafts too right

3214
01:58:04,229 --> 01:58:00,639
i saw one that was uh i was fishing away

3215
01:58:05,669 --> 01:58:04,239
in the very remote spot and uh

3216
01:58:08,390 --> 01:58:05,679
first thing in the morning look up and

3217
01:58:12,149 --> 01:58:08,400
there's this like tic tac

3218
01:58:13,830 --> 01:58:12,159
silver uh silver object like 50 80

3219
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:13,840
000 feet up there i just stared at it

3220
01:58:17,830 --> 01:58:15,360
for five minutes in a row

3221
01:58:18,709 --> 01:58:17,840
non-stop and all of a sudden it just it

3222
01:58:20,229 --> 01:58:18,719
disappeared

3223
01:58:22,790 --> 01:58:20,239
like on and off so it's like faster than

3224
01:58:27,189 --> 01:58:22,800
a light switch it was just gone

3225
01:58:29,669 --> 01:58:27,199
um funny incident i went to this uh

3226
01:58:31,270 --> 01:58:29,679
so one day i went to the wedding and uh

3227
01:58:32,950 --> 01:58:31,280
on the weekend i said this one guy you'd

3228
01:58:35,990 --> 01:58:32,960
have super heavy bias towards

3229
01:58:37,350 --> 01:58:36,000
crafts and i said to my comic story like

3230
01:58:39,350 --> 01:58:37,360
dude

3231
01:58:41,189 --> 01:58:39,360
there's a met this guy and he had a very

3232
01:58:42,629 --> 01:58:41,199
heavy bias to uh

3233
01:58:44,470 --> 01:58:42,639
ufos he's like there's no way they're

3234
01:58:46,470 --> 01:58:44,480
here and i'm like oh definitely

3235
01:58:48,310 --> 01:58:46,480
here buddy i told him my experiences and

3236
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:48,320
all this and then um

3237
01:58:51,669 --> 01:58:50,320
on that same on the next day at the same

3238
01:58:54,950 --> 01:58:51,679
round the same time

3239
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:54,960
we both saw this funny object just

3240
01:58:59,510 --> 01:58:56,400
slowly going

3241
01:59:01,189 --> 01:58:59,520
from uh kind of like south to uh east to

3242
01:59:04,629 --> 01:59:01,199
west kind of thing

3243
01:59:06,870 --> 01:59:04,639
go in the in the air and it was like uh

3244
01:59:08,070 --> 01:59:06,880
it's almost like a pinkish gold type of

3245
01:59:09,350 --> 01:59:08,080
object

3246
01:59:11,030 --> 01:59:09,360
you know if anything it was like some

3247
01:59:12,229 --> 01:59:11,040
sort of fancy blue but i looked at the

3248
01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:12,239
shape of it like

3249
01:59:15,350 --> 01:59:13,840
there's no no one makes a balloon that

3250
01:59:16,709 --> 01:59:15,360
shape

3251
01:59:18,709 --> 01:59:16,719
i those interests another thing i saw

3252
01:59:21,750 --> 01:59:18,719
too was this um

3253
01:59:22,870 --> 01:59:21,760
it was far in the distance it did like a

3254
01:59:24,950 --> 01:59:22,880
semi circle

3255
01:59:26,629 --> 01:59:24,960
uh pretty high up basically it was like

3256
01:59:30,790 --> 01:59:26,639
a green almost like the lower

3257
01:59:32,790 --> 01:59:30,800
two halves of the of a snowman and uh

3258
01:59:35,510 --> 01:59:32,800
imagine the head coming off so just the

3259
01:59:36,950 --> 01:59:35,520
you know the body and the lower legs

3260
01:59:38,310 --> 01:59:36,960
around for the bigger round part right

3261
01:59:39,750 --> 01:59:38,320
that was the shape of it

3262
01:59:42,149 --> 01:59:39,760
and then within that there was this

3263
01:59:45,430 --> 01:59:42,159
orange or sorry this red

3264
01:59:48,229 --> 01:59:45,440
uh light that lit up for like

3265
01:59:49,589 --> 01:59:48,239
for like uh five seconds and then just

3266
01:59:52,390 --> 01:59:49,599
disappeared for like two

3267
01:59:54,870 --> 01:59:52,400
slowly and it it faded slowly and then

3268
01:59:56,470 --> 01:59:54,880
lit up for like five seconds

3269
01:59:58,870 --> 01:59:56,480
and then it didn't for like three

3270
02:00:01,350 --> 01:59:58,880
seconds the other one was like

3271
02:00:02,470 --> 02:00:01,360
six seconds so it was changing i just

3272
02:00:05,510 --> 02:00:02,480
did a semicircle

3273
02:00:08,310 --> 02:00:05,520
and just left the night sky

3274
02:00:08,790 --> 02:00:08,320
another time too i saw this um kind of

3275
02:00:14,709 --> 02:00:08,800
like

3276
02:00:16,070 --> 02:00:14,719
rounded wings at the bottom basically

3277
02:00:17,270 --> 02:00:16,080
instead of like the wings straight out

3278
02:00:20,550 --> 02:00:17,280
that kind of curled

3279
02:00:21,510 --> 02:00:20,560
underneath around it and uh i saw it

3280
02:00:24,550 --> 02:00:21,520
just go across

3281
02:00:26,629 --> 02:00:24,560
the uh the sky so it lit up for like in

3282
02:00:28,149 --> 02:00:26,639
the same trajectory lit up for like a

3283
02:00:31,189 --> 02:00:28,159
couple seconds and then

3284
02:00:33,109 --> 02:00:31,199
it dimmed and then the same speed

3285
02:00:36,709 --> 02:00:33,119
it lit up again for a couple seconds and

3286
02:00:36,719 --> 02:00:43,270
so

3287
02:00:47,109 --> 02:00:46,229
uh observations was there anything else

3288
02:00:50,310 --> 02:00:47,119
that you got

3289
02:00:53,589 --> 02:00:50,320
from that or you know can you can you

3290
02:00:57,189 --> 02:00:55,510
was it was it simply just a witnessing

3291
02:00:59,189 --> 02:00:57,199
or was there more that was there

3292
02:01:01,109 --> 02:00:59,199
was there some kind of you know maybe

3293
02:01:02,229 --> 02:01:01,119
second interaction of some sorts or

3294
02:01:05,750 --> 02:01:02,239
anything like that well

3295
02:01:06,390 --> 02:01:05,760
yeah well and another and the the latest

3296
02:01:09,430 --> 02:01:06,400
was like

3297
02:01:12,629 --> 02:01:09,440
uh 2019

3298
02:01:14,470 --> 02:01:12,639
i woke up uh from my bed it was just the

3299
02:01:16,629 --> 02:01:14,480
sun was just coming up and

3300
02:01:18,070 --> 02:01:16,639
but then woke me up and i sat up in the

3301
02:01:19,030 --> 02:01:18,080
bed and looked at the end of the bed and

3302
02:01:21,750 --> 02:01:19,040
there was this

3303
02:01:23,910 --> 02:01:21,760
like three and a half a tall being with

3304
02:01:27,270 --> 02:01:23,920
small eyes just smiling at me

3305
02:01:29,350 --> 02:01:27,280
just gleaming and it had like the

3306
02:01:31,350 --> 02:01:29,360
uh smile likes like he'd been smiling

3307
02:01:33,750 --> 02:01:31,360
for centuries

3308
02:01:35,830 --> 02:01:33,760
and i just was so overwhelmed that i

3309
02:01:38,229 --> 02:01:35,840
woke up to this being i just passed out

3310
02:01:40,950 --> 02:01:38,239
back to sleep

3311
02:01:41,990 --> 02:01:40,960
so that happened uh so something's going

3312
02:01:43,589 --> 02:01:42,000
on here right there's

3313
02:01:45,830 --> 02:01:43,599
really nothing i can do about it it's

3314
02:01:48,870 --> 02:01:45,840
just it's happening

3315
02:01:51,189 --> 02:01:48,880
you know it's uh i've seen other

3316
02:01:52,070 --> 02:01:51,199
other crafts too like this red

3317
02:01:55,669 --> 02:01:52,080
circulating

3318
02:01:57,270 --> 02:01:55,679
uh ball of light craft and a farmer's

3319
02:02:00,790 --> 02:01:57,280
field like tucked away in this

3320
02:02:01,350 --> 02:02:00,800
farmer's field just rotating very and

3321
02:02:03,030 --> 02:02:01,360
everything was

3322
02:02:04,629 --> 02:02:03,040
silent it was the summer time everything

3323
02:02:05,030 --> 02:02:04,639
was silent it was just this ball of

3324
02:02:08,709 --> 02:02:05,040
light

3325
02:02:12,709 --> 02:02:08,719
circulating that was quite peculiar

3326
02:02:13,669 --> 02:02:12,719
um yeah a lot a lot of incidents man

3327
02:02:15,669 --> 02:02:13,679
like uh

3328
02:02:18,149 --> 02:02:15,679
like it's just i really don't look for

3329
02:02:20,870 --> 02:02:18,159
it anymore i'm not seeking it anymore

3330
02:02:22,229 --> 02:02:20,880
i just know that it's reality you know

3331
02:02:24,870 --> 02:02:22,239
what i mean

3332
02:02:26,550 --> 02:02:24,880
it's like okay what next you know what's

3333
02:02:29,350 --> 02:02:26,560
what does this really mean

3334
02:02:30,709 --> 02:02:29,360
like what should i do with these should

3335
02:02:32,870 --> 02:02:30,719
i share my experiences that's why i

3336
02:02:35,669 --> 02:02:32,880
shared experiences because

3337
02:02:36,629 --> 02:02:35,679
you know i think it'd be beneficial in a

3338
02:02:38,629 --> 02:02:36,639
sense

3339
02:02:40,470 --> 02:02:38,639
and obviously you have to be smart about

3340
02:02:42,790 --> 02:02:40,480
it but clearly these beings are so much

3341
02:02:46,310 --> 02:02:42,800
more advanced than we are there's really

3342
02:02:49,589 --> 02:02:46,320
not much we can do what i've seen

3343
02:02:49,910 --> 02:02:49,599
is and that could be you know troubling

3344
02:02:51,510 --> 02:02:49,920
but

3345
02:02:53,589 --> 02:02:51,520
uh you know it's humbling in a sense

3346
02:02:54,390 --> 02:02:53,599
right that you have these abilities like

3347
02:02:58,950 --> 02:02:54,400
very

3348
02:03:02,310 --> 02:02:58,960
walls

3349
02:03:05,030 --> 02:03:02,320
you know manifest freeze things and like

3350
02:03:06,629 --> 02:03:05,040
they're just these beings it must be

3351
02:03:07,589 --> 02:03:06,639
thousands of years ahead of us you know

3352
02:03:10,470 --> 02:03:07,599
i mean

3353
02:03:10,709 --> 02:03:10,480
yeah do you share these stories often or

3354
02:03:12,830 --> 02:03:10,719
is

3355
02:03:14,550 --> 02:03:12,840
it something just generally keep to

3356
02:03:16,550 --> 02:03:14,560
yourself

3357
02:03:18,310 --> 02:03:16,560
well i've told my whole family and

3358
02:03:20,870 --> 02:03:18,320
friends and

3359
02:03:21,669 --> 02:03:20,880
some people that are close to me yeah

3360
02:03:23,189 --> 02:03:21,679
and

3361
02:03:24,870 --> 02:03:23,199
i kind of i'm starting to talk a bit

3362
02:03:27,189 --> 02:03:24,880
more about it now with

3363
02:03:28,390 --> 02:03:27,199
just you know having courage and you

3364
02:03:29,510 --> 02:03:28,400
know just to think of doing the right

3365
02:03:31,830 --> 02:03:29,520
thing to

3366
02:03:33,109 --> 02:03:31,840
share these this these route realities

3367
02:03:34,390 --> 02:03:33,119
with people because they're interested

3368
02:03:35,750 --> 02:03:34,400
in it and

3369
02:03:37,189 --> 02:03:35,760
and they should they should know the

3370
02:03:37,990 --> 02:03:37,199
truth they should know what's really

3371
02:03:39,910 --> 02:03:38,000
going on

3372
02:03:42,390 --> 02:03:39,920
and i think like the governor and

3373
02:03:44,950 --> 02:03:42,400
whatnot is slowly disclosing it uh

3374
02:03:45,430 --> 02:03:44,960
you know in a in a drip right they don't

3375
02:03:47,669 --> 02:03:45,440
want to

3376
02:03:49,669 --> 02:03:47,679
overwhelm and you know break any dogmas

3377
02:03:50,229 --> 02:03:49,679
or whatever disturb things too much so

3378
02:03:52,550 --> 02:03:50,239
it's

3379
02:03:54,229 --> 02:03:52,560
slowly desensitizing us to this reality

3380
02:03:55,990 --> 02:03:54,239
right

3381
02:03:57,990 --> 02:03:56,000
you know so they have advanced

3382
02:03:59,270 --> 02:03:58,000
technology like that you know so

3383
02:04:01,589 --> 02:03:59,280
you know they i don't think they're

3384
02:04:03,350 --> 02:04:01,599
warring species they have propulsion

3385
02:04:04,629 --> 02:04:03,360
technology that isn't harmful to the

3386
02:04:08,470 --> 02:04:04,639
environment

3387
02:04:10,390 --> 02:04:08,480
um it's just it's just pretty incredible

3388
02:04:14,870 --> 02:04:10,400
well what made you want to uh call in

3389
02:04:18,470 --> 02:04:17,669
i don't know god knows i just i saw your

3390
02:04:21,750 --> 02:04:18,480
your thing

3391
02:04:22,470 --> 02:04:21,760
pop up and i always appreciate uh you

3392
02:04:24,709 --> 02:04:22,480
know how

3393
02:04:25,990 --> 02:04:24,719
kind and cool you are methodical with uh

3394
02:04:28,310 --> 02:04:26,000
with everything and

3395
02:04:29,510 --> 02:04:28,320
what you're doing it's just uh you know

3396
02:04:31,669 --> 02:04:29,520
i thank you

3397
02:04:32,709 --> 02:04:31,679
for putting on the show and i wish you

3398
02:04:35,990 --> 02:04:32,719
all the best with it

3399
02:04:37,270 --> 02:04:36,000
and uh yeah oh thank you niels i

3400
02:04:39,750 --> 02:04:37,280
appreciate that

3401
02:04:41,270 --> 02:04:39,760
i'm glad you did um so i guess you've

3402
02:04:43,350 --> 02:04:41,280
listened to some of the previous open

3403
02:04:46,709 --> 02:04:43,360
lines before

3404
02:04:48,629 --> 02:04:46,719
absolutely yeah okay you know i mean

3405
02:04:50,310 --> 02:04:48,639
this is exactly what i what i basically

3406
02:04:52,310 --> 02:04:50,320
wanted it to be just

3407
02:04:53,430 --> 02:04:52,320
because i know as i've said before you

3408
02:04:56,470 --> 02:04:53,440
know it's it's

3409
02:04:58,470 --> 02:04:56,480
i always talk to the the people that

3410
02:05:00,950 --> 02:04:58,480
they've put they put it down in a

3411
02:05:02,310 --> 02:05:00,960
concise way like a book and are

3412
02:05:04,149 --> 02:05:02,320
you know a bit more well known and

3413
02:05:06,629 --> 02:05:04,159
whatnot but that's not what

3414
02:05:08,470 --> 02:05:06,639
what i'm you know wanting to put out

3415
02:05:09,189 --> 02:05:08,480
there you know it's a contact happens to

3416
02:05:11,669 --> 02:05:09,199
everybody

3417
02:05:12,470 --> 02:05:11,679
you know and so it's actually was a

3418
02:05:15,589 --> 02:05:12,480
somebody

3419
02:05:17,589 --> 02:05:15,599
in the community chat on the youtube to

3420
02:05:21,430 --> 02:05:17,599
suggested something about

3421
02:05:23,750 --> 02:05:21,440
um what was it uh being able to

3422
02:05:25,350 --> 02:05:23,760
uh have people call in and that kind of

3423
02:05:27,030 --> 02:05:25,360
gave me the idea i was like well shoot

3424
02:05:27,990 --> 02:05:27,040
why don't i just try to set it up to

3425
02:05:34,390 --> 02:05:28,000
telegram

3426
02:05:35,030 --> 02:05:34,400
um you know i i do appreciate you having

3427
02:05:38,550 --> 02:05:35,040
the

3428
02:05:39,350 --> 02:05:38,560
type of person that doesn't need courage

3429
02:05:41,430 --> 02:05:39,360
you would just

3430
02:05:43,750 --> 02:05:41,440
say it anyway but some people do you

3431
02:05:45,669 --> 02:05:43,760
know because they still have that

3432
02:05:47,270 --> 02:05:45,679
fear and all know what they're gonna

3433
02:05:48,709 --> 02:05:47,280
what are people gonna think who's

3434
02:05:50,790 --> 02:05:48,719
you know what they what are they gonna

3435
02:05:52,629 --> 02:05:50,800
say but you know i think that's what

3436
02:05:53,109 --> 02:05:52,639
it's all about just coming out and just

3437
02:05:56,470 --> 02:05:53,119
like hey

3438
02:05:58,950 --> 02:05:56,480
that's what happened take it or leave it

3439
02:06:00,229 --> 02:05:58,960
exactly yeah and i just wanted i just

3440
02:06:04,229 --> 02:06:00,239
want everybody to

3441
02:06:07,669 --> 02:06:04,239
check out john e mack he was uh harvard

3442
02:06:09,350 --> 02:06:07,679
a professor of psychology and legacy was

3443
02:06:11,270 --> 02:06:09,360
basically

3444
02:06:12,550 --> 02:06:11,280
you know the 62 children he was in

3445
02:06:15,830 --> 02:06:12,560
zimbabwe

3446
02:06:18,709 --> 02:06:15,840
and him really taking it you know a

3447
02:06:21,030 --> 02:06:18,719
open-minded but a scientific approach to

3448
02:06:23,750 --> 02:06:21,040
you know talking to abductees and about

3449
02:06:26,149 --> 02:06:23,760
their experiences and assessing them and

3450
02:06:27,669 --> 02:06:26,159
he's just an incredible person he was a

3451
02:06:30,629 --> 02:06:27,679
credible person and

3452
02:06:31,430 --> 02:06:30,639
he's gone back to the sun but uh yeah it

3453
02:06:35,990 --> 02:06:31,440
was check out

3454
02:06:38,310 --> 02:06:36,000
uh dr johnny mac incredible person

3455
02:06:39,669 --> 02:06:38,320
um and yeah and one other thing too like

3456
02:06:40,149 --> 02:06:39,679
i already know that you know when you

3457
02:06:45,109 --> 02:06:40,159
have

3458
02:06:47,830 --> 02:06:45,119
these interactions with these beings

3459
02:06:49,510 --> 02:06:47,840
you know it's like what's next and and

3460
02:06:52,870 --> 02:06:49,520
i'm sincerely looking into

3461
02:06:54,390 --> 02:06:52,880
you know is bigfoot real or is it just

3462
02:06:57,189 --> 02:06:54,400
all hocus pocus

3463
02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:57,199
right you know so many credible people

3464
02:07:00,390 --> 02:06:58,560
know divert from the topic here but so

3465
02:07:02,229 --> 02:07:00,400
many incredible people are into it

3466
02:07:03,910 --> 02:07:02,239
and so i've kind of been getting into it

3467
02:07:06,310 --> 02:07:03,920
to see you know is this is there a

3468
02:07:07,669 --> 02:07:06,320
reality here is it you know are we able

3469
02:07:09,990 --> 02:07:07,679
you know are these advanced beings are

3470
02:07:12,950 --> 02:07:10,000
they telepathic clearly they're able to

3471
02:07:14,310 --> 02:07:12,960
um you know they're in contact with uh

3472
02:07:15,589 --> 02:07:14,320
you know the star people

3473
02:07:17,430 --> 02:07:15,599
like the natives are in contact with

3474
02:07:19,910 --> 02:07:17,440
star people they talk about it

3475
02:07:20,950 --> 02:07:19,920
um well you know i wouldn't be surprised

3476
02:07:24,069 --> 02:07:20,960
well actually i'm not

3477
02:07:26,229 --> 02:07:24,079
i'm speaking actually from more of

3478
02:07:27,510 --> 02:07:26,239
just you know knowledge of what others

3479
02:07:29,830 --> 02:07:27,520
have said you could easily

3480
02:07:31,270 --> 02:07:29,840
take the ce5 approach you know for

3481
02:07:34,229 --> 02:07:31,280
bigfoot as well you know it's

3482
02:07:35,030 --> 02:07:34,239
it's yeah it would be in the same same

3483
02:07:38,149 --> 02:07:35,040
field

3484
02:07:41,189 --> 02:07:38,159
same you know same model

3485
02:07:43,589 --> 02:07:41,199
yeah yeah this level of uh

3486
02:07:44,470 --> 02:07:43,599
consciousness right it's elevated

3487
02:07:47,510 --> 02:07:44,480
consciousness

3488
02:07:49,750 --> 02:07:47,520
um more spiritual approach you know

3489
02:07:51,189 --> 02:07:49,760
the telepathic you know the photon

3490
02:07:53,189 --> 02:07:51,199
sending the photon energy and the

3491
02:07:55,189 --> 02:07:53,199
messages through the mind

3492
02:07:56,790 --> 02:07:55,199
and uh you know some things are in tune

3493
02:07:57,430 --> 02:07:56,800
to that you know they can read minds

3494
02:08:00,069 --> 02:07:57,440
right

3495
02:08:01,189 --> 02:08:00,079
that's telepathy so if you reject your

3496
02:08:03,910 --> 02:08:01,199
mind or

3497
02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:03,920
your you know your vibration or whatever

3498
02:08:07,270 --> 02:08:04,719
would be

3499
02:08:08,069 --> 02:08:07,280
your aura or anything like that these

3500
02:08:10,470 --> 02:08:08,079
beings

3501
02:08:11,910 --> 02:08:10,480
you know chances are they would be

3502
02:08:13,350 --> 02:08:11,920
receptive to it

3503
02:08:16,069 --> 02:08:13,360
they would you know they'd be able to

3504
02:08:17,669 --> 02:08:16,079
sense that right so um

3505
02:08:19,990 --> 02:08:17,679
it just it's just absolutely incredible

3506
02:08:23,350 --> 02:08:20,000
you know what's possible right now you

3507
02:08:24,870 --> 02:08:23,360
know what's going on right now

3508
02:08:26,550 --> 02:08:24,880
oh you know it's it's yeah it's

3509
02:08:28,550 --> 02:08:26,560
absolutely interesting it's uh i've been

3510
02:08:30,310 --> 02:08:28,560
kind of um

3511
02:08:31,750 --> 02:08:30,320
you know all these other doors that i've

3512
02:08:34,310 --> 02:08:31,760
opened throughout my life

3513
02:08:36,069 --> 02:08:34,320
you know i'm i'm debating whether i need

3514
02:08:38,310 --> 02:08:36,079
whether or not i need one more

3515
02:08:39,270 --> 02:08:38,320
especially for where i live here in the

3516
02:08:41,430 --> 02:08:39,280
heavily

3517
02:08:43,430 --> 02:08:41,440
wooded area you know it would be the

3518
02:08:45,350 --> 02:08:43,440
ideal to just kind of

3519
02:08:46,709 --> 02:08:45,360
put put the feelers out there and see

3520
02:08:49,350 --> 02:08:46,719
what comes back

3521
02:08:50,229 --> 02:08:49,360
but my perspective changes after a while

3522
02:08:51,990 --> 02:08:50,239
when i have

3523
02:08:53,830 --> 02:08:52,000
you know little children and and all of

3524
02:08:55,910 --> 02:08:53,840
that as much as i understand about the

3525
02:08:58,709 --> 02:08:55,920
field and everything i still can't help

3526
02:09:00,790 --> 02:08:58,719
having to feel feeling of the being

3527
02:09:01,589 --> 02:09:00,800
human and wanting to be protective of my

3528
02:09:02,950 --> 02:09:01,599
children

3529
02:09:05,189 --> 02:09:02,960
you know it's like that you know it's

3530
02:09:06,950 --> 02:09:05,199
one of these things to where

3531
02:09:08,470 --> 02:09:06,960
if something happens i'm okay with stuff

3532
02:09:10,390 --> 02:09:08,480
happening to me but

3533
02:09:12,790 --> 02:09:10,400
you know with them it's like a different

3534
02:09:15,910 --> 02:09:12,800
different scenario

3535
02:09:18,790 --> 02:09:15,920
absolutely you protect them 100

3536
02:09:19,270 --> 02:09:18,800
right no other well i mean the thing is

3537
02:09:21,830 --> 02:09:19,280
you know

3538
02:09:23,589 --> 02:09:21,840
even though there hasn't been anything

3539
02:09:26,149 --> 02:09:23,599
for me to fear of

3540
02:09:27,910 --> 02:09:26,159
i just would still i don't know i just

3541
02:09:29,750 --> 02:09:27,920
don't it's almost like um

3542
02:09:31,510 --> 02:09:29,760
same way we do with movies and things we

3543
02:09:32,629 --> 02:09:31,520
don't want kids to see ahead of their

3544
02:09:34,310 --> 02:09:32,639
time waiting to the

3545
02:09:36,069 --> 02:09:34,320
for the right age for them to be able to

3546
02:09:37,830 --> 02:09:36,079
understand and disseminate

3547
02:09:40,229 --> 02:09:37,840
it's kind of like the same feeling that

3548
02:09:42,069 --> 02:09:40,239
i have about you know bigfoot and

3549
02:09:43,669 --> 02:09:42,079
and ghosts and aliens and all of that

3550
02:09:45,430 --> 02:09:43,679
it's like i

3551
02:09:47,910 --> 02:09:45,440
wish for them to know that there's more

3552
02:09:49,109 --> 02:09:47,920
there but for now just go to school play

3553
02:09:50,950 --> 02:09:49,119
and have some fun you know

3554
02:09:52,870 --> 02:09:50,960
don't don't worry yeah wait till until

3555
02:09:55,270 --> 02:09:52,880
you're old you'll figure it out too

3556
02:09:56,790 --> 02:09:55,280
i don't want to be understand yeah i

3557
02:09:57,910 --> 02:09:56,800
wanted being younger and i wouldn't go

3558
02:10:01,430 --> 02:09:57,920
in the woods because

3559
02:10:03,430 --> 02:10:01,440
you know big hairy man lives there

3560
02:10:05,589 --> 02:10:03,440
yeah yeah i would have taught other uh

3561
02:10:09,750 --> 02:10:05,599
experience too with um

3562
02:10:12,470 --> 02:10:09,760
the spirit um basically so it was um

3563
02:10:14,069 --> 02:10:12,480
had a pretty good party on dancing and

3564
02:10:17,030 --> 02:10:14,079
red wine you know michael jackson

3565
02:10:18,470 --> 02:10:17,040
going on vinyls having a blast and i was

3566
02:10:19,990 --> 02:10:18,480
like i need to get some fresh air so i

3567
02:10:21,189 --> 02:10:20,000
opened up the back door and there was

3568
02:10:24,629 --> 02:10:21,199
this like

3569
02:10:29,589 --> 02:10:24,639
greenish blue type of uh

3570
02:10:30,870 --> 02:10:29,599
man standing there and he's kind of like

3571
02:10:32,629 --> 02:10:30,880
he was just on the other side of the

3572
02:10:32,950 --> 02:10:32,639
railing of the deck railing basically

3573
02:10:35,990 --> 02:10:32,960
and

3574
02:10:37,830 --> 02:10:36,000
uh almost like he was floating there

3575
02:10:39,350 --> 02:10:37,840
looked right at him like oh my god like

3576
02:10:43,350 --> 02:10:39,360
i freaked out and he

3577
02:10:47,189 --> 02:10:43,360
vanished and then looked down on my arm

3578
02:10:49,350 --> 02:10:47,199
and all the hair my arm was standing up

3579
02:10:51,030 --> 02:10:49,360
and uh i showed it to my friend like oh

3580
02:10:54,390 --> 02:10:51,040
my god what the heck

3581
02:10:56,950 --> 02:10:54,400
and uh so i just freaked out drank a

3582
02:10:59,750 --> 02:10:56,960
bunch of wine or wine went to bed

3583
02:11:01,030 --> 02:10:59,760
i woke up and there was this corn my eye

3584
02:11:03,109 --> 02:11:01,040
saw this uh

3585
02:11:04,149 --> 02:11:03,119
man laying with his arms crossed in the

3586
02:11:07,189 --> 02:11:04,159
morning sun

3587
02:11:10,310 --> 02:11:07,199
like a piece kind of thing

3588
02:11:11,669 --> 02:11:10,320
so that was uh yeah i could see he

3589
02:11:14,149 --> 02:11:11,679
looked like a

3590
02:11:17,109 --> 02:11:14,159
five foot six like scottish man

3591
02:11:23,430 --> 02:11:20,629
um yeah so

3592
02:11:24,709 --> 02:11:23,440
that happened you don't go looking for

3593
02:11:27,270 --> 02:11:24,719
this stuff it just happens

3594
02:11:28,550 --> 02:11:27,280
right it just happens right like the

3595
02:11:29,350 --> 02:11:28,560
last thing i was thinking of seeing a

3596
02:11:33,750 --> 02:11:29,360
spirit of

3597
02:11:36,709 --> 02:11:33,760
of a man at night what i mean like

3598
02:11:38,790 --> 02:11:36,719
well i've always been you know of the

3599
02:11:40,790 --> 02:11:38,800
mindset that whatever happens

3600
02:11:42,149 --> 02:11:40,800
it happens to you and there's a reason

3601
02:11:44,149 --> 02:11:42,159
for that so it's like

3602
02:11:45,910 --> 02:11:44,159
it's only up to us to keep going down

3603
02:11:48,390 --> 02:11:45,920
that road to

3604
02:11:49,589 --> 02:11:48,400
however far it can go to eventually get

3605
02:11:52,870 --> 02:11:49,599
to

3606
02:11:54,790 --> 02:11:52,880
about you know because it's

3607
02:11:55,990 --> 02:11:54,800
it's one of these things to where it's

3608
02:11:57,830 --> 02:11:56,000
so weird to

3609
02:11:59,510 --> 02:11:57,840
have to go out and tell everyone else

3610
02:12:00,629 --> 02:11:59,520
about it and they all they can give you

3611
02:12:03,830 --> 02:12:00,639
back is guessing

3612
02:12:04,950 --> 02:12:03,840
and maybe educated guests and maybe it's

3613
02:12:07,270 --> 02:12:04,960
this maybe it's that

3614
02:12:09,430 --> 02:12:07,280
possibly this you know and and it's just

3615
02:12:11,109 --> 02:12:09,440
confuses the scenario even more

3616
02:12:13,510 --> 02:12:11,119
you know to just it just makes a lot

3617
02:12:15,830 --> 02:12:13,520
easier like just go on your own keep

3618
02:12:16,870 --> 02:12:15,840
let it keep happening keep watching keep

3619
02:12:19,109 --> 02:12:16,880
listening and

3620
02:12:24,790 --> 02:12:19,119
you know sooner or later more of a

3621
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:28,470
yeah another time

3622
02:12:32,069 --> 02:12:30,390
no i was just saying that's just been

3623
02:12:34,069 --> 02:12:32,079
always my opinion and my point of view

3624
02:12:35,910 --> 02:12:34,079
about that kind of stuff because

3625
02:12:37,430 --> 02:12:35,920
you know it's always great to talk to

3626
02:12:40,229 --> 02:12:37,440
somebody else but

3627
02:12:41,189 --> 02:12:40,239
all i can say is like wow that is cool

3628
02:12:43,510 --> 02:12:41,199
you know and then

3629
02:12:45,189 --> 02:12:43,520
you know just be a be a year but i don't

3630
02:12:47,750 --> 02:12:45,199
know what what other

3631
02:12:48,470 --> 02:12:47,760
information i can offer unless unless

3632
02:12:50,390 --> 02:12:48,480
there's

3633
02:12:51,830 --> 02:12:50,400
specifically something that like oh

3634
02:12:53,109 --> 02:12:51,840
something similar happened to me and

3635
02:12:55,990 --> 02:12:53,119
this is what i did

3636
02:12:56,870 --> 02:12:56,000
but even then it just takes the action

3637
02:12:58,550 --> 02:12:56,880
away from you

3638
02:13:02,229 --> 02:12:58,560
because it's you that's gonna have to

3639
02:13:05,669 --> 02:13:02,239
act on it eventually

3640
02:13:07,109 --> 02:13:05,679
yeah i guess yeah well so it's going on

3641
02:13:10,550 --> 02:13:07,119
another time too i had

3642
02:13:13,189 --> 02:13:10,560
uh yeah i don't put too much uh

3643
02:13:13,750 --> 02:13:13,199
you know uh the dream state right i

3644
02:13:15,830 --> 02:13:13,760
don't put

3645
02:13:16,950 --> 02:13:15,840
too much emphasis on it or at you know

3646
02:13:19,270 --> 02:13:16,960
accuracy but

3647
02:13:20,870 --> 02:13:19,280
one time i had this dream where uh i

3648
02:13:23,109 --> 02:13:20,880
basically woke up

3649
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:23,119
on a ship and it was like an around a

3650
02:13:27,669 --> 02:13:24,480
corridor

3651
02:13:28,229 --> 02:13:27,679
and uh i like wanted to know like what

3652
02:13:30,069 --> 02:13:28,239
what this

3653
02:13:31,270 --> 02:13:30,079
is all about basically and it was like

3654
02:13:34,550 --> 02:13:31,280
this

3655
02:13:37,990 --> 02:13:34,560
it was like probably 800

3656
02:13:41,030 --> 02:13:38,000
computer desks computers with uh

3657
02:13:44,390 --> 02:13:41,040
chairs basically perfect symmetry

3658
02:13:47,830 --> 02:13:44,400
very close to each other this huge room

3659
02:13:50,390 --> 02:13:47,840
and had this huge screen and it was like

3660
02:13:52,310 --> 02:13:50,400
after hours kind of thing

3661
02:13:53,990 --> 02:13:52,320
and then there was these two there's

3662
02:13:56,629 --> 02:13:54,000
always two people like

3663
02:13:58,229 --> 02:13:56,639
almost like at a booth almost uh staying

3664
02:14:01,669 --> 02:13:58,239
inside just the booth

3665
02:14:03,589 --> 02:14:01,679
they were talking about something

3666
02:14:04,390 --> 02:14:03,599
they're very animated and they look

3667
02:14:05,589 --> 02:14:04,400
different i don't remember what they

3668
02:14:06,709 --> 02:14:05,599
look like but i just recall they look

3669
02:14:09,030 --> 02:14:06,719
different

3670
02:14:10,390 --> 02:14:09,040
you know regular you know probably like

3671
02:14:13,669 --> 02:14:10,400
the clothes and whatnot but they're very

3672
02:14:17,030 --> 02:14:13,679
eccentric people and uh yeah that was

3673
02:14:19,189 --> 02:14:17,040
interesting right

3674
02:14:21,910 --> 02:14:19,199
but uh yeah so like i've talked for

3675
02:14:25,990 --> 02:14:25,109
right do you plan on continuing yeah and

3676
02:14:31,350 --> 02:14:26,000
just

3677
02:14:33,990 --> 02:14:31,360
whatever experience you get

3678
02:14:35,270 --> 02:14:34,000
maybe yeah like next time in nature like

3679
02:14:38,229 --> 02:14:35,280
you know who knows what

3680
02:14:40,229 --> 02:14:38,239
uh if you know if i want to manifest it

3681
02:14:41,990 --> 02:14:40,239
like i just don't feel like i i

3682
02:14:43,910 --> 02:14:42,000
have a need for it anymore because i've

3683
02:14:45,510 --> 02:14:43,920
already been shown you know i've already

3684
02:14:47,750 --> 02:14:45,520
seen it it's like

3685
02:14:48,870 --> 02:14:47,760
how many more examples do you need you

3686
02:14:51,589 --> 02:14:48,880
know what i mean it's like

3687
02:14:53,030 --> 02:14:51,599
right i just know now right that's just

3688
02:14:54,149 --> 02:14:53,040
i'm just happy that i know that that's

3689
02:14:57,750 --> 02:14:54,159
that's

3690
02:14:59,669 --> 02:14:57,760
you know is it

3691
02:15:02,390 --> 02:14:59,679
comfortable because it's so strange yeah

3692
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:02,400
but it just is what it is right

3693
02:15:06,310 --> 02:15:04,320
you know it's what happened and so now a

3694
02:15:08,310 --> 02:15:06,320
lot of people get to experience it right

3695
02:15:09,830 --> 02:15:08,320
but a lot of people are i've experienced

3696
02:15:11,669 --> 02:15:09,840
it right

3697
02:15:13,750 --> 02:15:11,679
and uh there's a lot of authentic people

3698
02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:13,760
with their stories right

3699
02:15:18,069 --> 02:15:16,480
they're coming back to 62 children these

3700
02:15:21,750 --> 02:15:18,079
these two crafts landed

3701
02:15:24,069 --> 02:15:21,760
at recess time and these short beings uh

3702
02:15:26,149 --> 02:15:24,079
basically floated over to them and they

3703
02:15:27,910 --> 02:15:26,159
had big black eyes and uh

3704
02:15:30,629 --> 02:15:27,920
they gave messages like we're becoming

3705
02:15:33,589 --> 02:15:30,639
too technologically advanced

3706
02:15:34,830 --> 02:15:33,599
uh we have to stop hurting the planet we

3707
02:15:37,910 --> 02:15:34,840
have to stop

3708
02:15:39,430 --> 02:15:37,920
warring and showing like what what's

3709
02:15:40,870 --> 02:15:39,440
going to become of the world if we

3710
02:15:44,629 --> 02:15:40,880
continue on this

3711
02:15:46,550 --> 02:15:44,639
bullish path right and so

3712
02:15:48,149 --> 02:15:46,560
anyways so johnny mac went and assessed

3713
02:15:50,950 --> 02:15:48,159
them and to this day these

3714
02:15:51,430 --> 02:15:50,960
these people they're like the 30s now

3715
02:15:54,629 --> 02:15:51,440
you know

3716
02:15:57,750 --> 02:15:54,639
30s uh late 20s and 30s there

3717
02:16:00,629 --> 02:15:57,760
to this day they still speak of it not

3718
02:16:04,069 --> 02:16:00,639
one of them has changed their story

3719
02:16:07,189 --> 02:16:04,079
and you can contact them and so

3720
02:16:08,550 --> 02:16:07,199
that's uh that's an incredible incident

3721
02:16:10,470 --> 02:16:08,560
so yeah johnny mac went there and

3722
02:16:11,109 --> 02:16:10,480
assessed them and you know asked the

3723
02:16:13,669 --> 02:16:11,119
purest

3724
02:16:14,790 --> 02:16:13,679
little girl what they saw and what what

3725
02:16:16,390 --> 02:16:14,800
her story was and

3726
02:16:17,990 --> 02:16:16,400
you know you know that's like five or

3727
02:16:21,030 --> 02:16:18,000
six years old all the way up to

3728
02:16:21,830 --> 02:16:21,040
13 14 you know you know they're on

3729
02:16:24,229 --> 02:16:21,840
camera

3730
02:16:26,069 --> 02:16:24,239
getting getting interested basically

3731
02:16:27,910 --> 02:16:26,079
yeah that would be interesting

3732
02:16:29,990 --> 02:16:27,920
for me to maybe reach out and see if i

3733
02:16:30,950 --> 02:16:30,000
can get a hold of somebody and see if

3734
02:16:34,950 --> 02:16:30,960
one of them would be

3735
02:16:39,270 --> 02:16:37,990
yeah i'll uh i'll let dr j radio live do

3736
02:16:42,709 --> 02:16:39,280
you know him

3737
02:16:45,110 --> 02:16:42,719
no i don't i'm sorry yeah just check out

3738
02:16:48,309 --> 02:16:45,120
his youtube he does uh he does some

3739
02:16:51,830 --> 02:16:48,319
similar uh show like you do it's dr j

3740
02:16:53,030 --> 02:16:51,840
radio live and uh just youtube now if

3741
02:16:54,870 --> 02:16:53,040
you want and uh

3742
02:16:56,790 --> 02:16:54,880
yes a lot of he has incredible guests on

3743
02:16:59,910 --> 02:16:56,800
there man he gets like

3744
02:17:02,230 --> 02:16:59,920
top top people out there so you should

3745
02:17:03,910 --> 02:17:02,240
have him on your show you go on his show

3746
02:17:06,309 --> 02:17:03,920
or do something together and just you

3747
02:17:08,950 --> 02:17:06,319
know get the word out and get people

3748
02:17:10,309 --> 02:17:08,960
getting in the know and giving courage

3749
02:17:13,110 --> 02:17:10,319
you know or just people to

3750
02:17:14,150 --> 02:17:13,120
share their experiences and stories and

3751
02:17:16,790 --> 02:17:14,160
you know

3752
02:17:18,309 --> 02:17:16,800
right you should just keep understanding

3753
02:17:20,070 --> 02:17:18,319
and getting knowledge

3754
02:17:21,910 --> 02:17:20,080
right well let me see people just

3755
02:17:23,509 --> 02:17:21,920
listening to you would be

3756
02:17:26,150 --> 02:17:23,519
you know for some encouraging enough to

3757
02:17:28,150 --> 02:17:26,160
be like all right next time i'll do it

3758
02:17:29,830 --> 02:17:28,160
you know it's like um yeah do you see

3759
02:17:32,309 --> 02:17:29,840
you know honestly i noticed

3760
02:17:33,750 --> 02:17:32,319
you know when to say top people you know

3761
02:17:35,030 --> 02:17:33,760
having done this in

3762
02:17:37,030 --> 02:17:35,040
you know quite a while you know i

3763
02:17:39,030 --> 02:17:37,040
respect them all i'm glad they

3764
02:17:41,110 --> 02:17:39,040
the ones that i did was able to talk on

3765
02:17:43,110 --> 02:17:41,120
the show it's it's great but it's not

3766
02:17:45,669 --> 02:17:43,120
about them at the end of the day

3767
02:17:46,309 --> 02:17:45,679
you know it's like um they just had more

3768
02:17:48,870 --> 02:17:46,319
of a

3769
02:17:50,709 --> 02:17:48,880
proclivity to really get into the the

3770
02:17:51,910 --> 02:17:50,719
subject and just keep at it till they

3771
02:17:55,110 --> 02:17:51,920
become a little bit more

3772
02:17:56,150 --> 02:17:55,120
well known but really honestly there's

3773
02:17:58,230 --> 02:17:56,160
no difference between

3774
02:18:00,309 --> 02:17:58,240
you and richard dolan you know there's

3775
02:18:01,830 --> 02:18:00,319
no difference between you and stanton

3776
02:18:03,910 --> 02:18:01,840
freeman you know all these

3777
02:18:05,190 --> 02:18:03,920
you know these big names i've got to

3778
02:18:07,349 --> 02:18:05,200
know them very well

3779
02:18:08,309 --> 02:18:07,359
in person i talked to them and we had

3780
02:18:11,270 --> 02:18:08,319
all these you know

3781
02:18:13,030 --> 02:18:11,280
just you know those hotel room talks you

3782
02:18:14,629 --> 02:18:13,040
know when the conference is over and

3783
02:18:16,469 --> 02:18:14,639
everyone is you know

3784
02:18:18,629 --> 02:18:16,479
just kind of behind closed doors and

3785
02:18:19,990 --> 02:18:18,639
it's really they're all doing exactly

3786
02:18:22,790 --> 02:18:20,000
what you and i are doing now

3787
02:18:24,790 --> 02:18:22,800
wandering and looking and confirming and

3788
02:18:26,150 --> 02:18:24,800
double checking and cross-referencing

3789
02:18:27,750 --> 02:18:26,160
and all this other stuff so

3790
02:18:29,349 --> 02:18:27,760
we're all in the same boat at the end of

3791
02:18:31,910 --> 02:18:29,359
the day you know

3792
02:18:32,790 --> 02:18:31,920
no i'm not the belittle belittling them

3793
02:18:35,349 --> 02:18:32,800
you know especially

3794
02:18:37,190 --> 02:18:35,359
late late stanton freeman i appreciate

3795
02:18:38,070 --> 02:18:37,200
his work very much and everyone else in

3796
02:18:40,070 --> 02:18:38,080
ufology

3797
02:18:41,750 --> 02:18:40,080
i'm just saying that you know we should

3798
02:18:43,190 --> 02:18:41,760
all give ourselves some credit just the

3799
02:18:45,669 --> 02:18:43,200
fact that we're talking

3800
02:18:46,709 --> 02:18:45,679
about it you know and in whichever way

3801
02:18:49,270 --> 02:18:46,719
we know how

3802
02:18:50,230 --> 02:18:49,280
is is you know does justice to the

3803
02:18:52,950 --> 02:18:50,240
ufology

3804
02:18:54,389 --> 02:18:52,960
because at one point these stories you

3805
02:18:56,070 --> 02:18:54,399
know are going to be

3806
02:18:57,750 --> 02:18:56,080
making more sense to people there's

3807
02:19:00,309 --> 02:18:57,760
going to be more and more people looking

3808
02:19:01,110 --> 02:19:00,319
to see it's like oh well what's this

3809
02:19:02,790 --> 02:19:01,120
happening there

3810
02:19:04,469 --> 02:19:02,800
there's got to be more information out

3811
02:19:06,309 --> 02:19:04,479
there and sure enough

3812
02:19:07,830 --> 02:19:06,319
they'll be coming across videos like

3813
02:19:09,750 --> 02:19:07,840
this and they're like oh

3814
02:19:10,950 --> 02:19:09,760
you know there's experiences you know

3815
02:19:12,950 --> 02:19:10,960
and and we'll

3816
02:19:14,469 --> 02:19:12,960
absolutely end up end up listening to

3817
02:19:17,190 --> 02:19:14,479
you and and seeing

3818
02:19:19,110 --> 02:19:17,200
okay well you know this person has seen

3819
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:19,120
similar things that i have and then

3820
02:19:22,950 --> 02:19:21,040
might make him feel better and not so

3821
02:19:27,509 --> 02:19:22,960
isolated and not so

3822
02:19:30,629 --> 02:19:27,519
um you know alone anymore

3823
02:19:33,190 --> 02:19:30,639
oh for sure like that just look at the

3824
02:19:34,070 --> 02:19:33,200
milky way it's just so incredible and

3825
02:19:36,230 --> 02:19:34,080
one thing i want to say

3826
02:19:38,230 --> 02:19:36,240
is that you should do something that

3827
02:19:40,790 --> 02:19:38,240
scares you every day

3828
02:19:43,190 --> 02:19:40,800
and challenges you every day and it's

3829
02:19:45,030 --> 02:19:43,200
part of it too right just getting

3830
02:19:46,709 --> 02:19:45,040
getting the information out there and

3831
02:19:47,509 --> 02:19:46,719
trying to get knowledge and developing

3832
02:19:49,830 --> 02:19:47,519
consensus

3833
02:19:51,670 --> 02:19:49,840
and listening to experts or people that

3834
02:19:54,230 --> 02:19:51,680
devote all their time to it

3835
02:19:56,070 --> 02:19:54,240
and you know doing ce5 yourself you know

3836
02:19:58,950 --> 02:19:56,080
if you're sincere about it

3837
02:20:00,550 --> 02:19:58,960
and you really want to know you know

3838
02:20:03,830 --> 02:20:00,560
what you're capable of

3839
02:20:05,750 --> 02:20:03,840
it's you know it unlocks you as a as a

3840
02:20:07,590 --> 02:20:05,760
person as a spirit as a being about

3841
02:20:09,349 --> 02:20:07,600
consciousness it just

3842
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:09,359
shows that we're all connected it's all

3843
02:20:13,429 --> 02:20:11,280
interconnectedness

3844
02:20:15,429 --> 02:20:13,439
and it's just it's just so incredible

3845
02:20:16,309 --> 02:20:15,439
it's just sometimes we forget that that

3846
02:20:19,670 --> 02:20:16,319
it's oh

3847
02:20:21,510 --> 02:20:19,680
just amazing it is and we're just slowly

3848
02:20:23,110 --> 02:20:21,520
like you get you get crumbs right of

3849
02:20:26,309 --> 02:20:23,120
like information the

3850
02:20:27,270 --> 02:20:26,319
experiences and consensus and whatnot

3851
02:20:28,469 --> 02:20:27,280
and then all of a sudden you have a

3852
02:20:30,389 --> 02:20:28,479
pretty good at you know

3853
02:20:31,750 --> 02:20:30,399
pretty good meal and your feast on it's

3854
02:20:34,870 --> 02:20:31,760
like holy

3855
02:20:35,990 --> 02:20:34,880
like really we gotta prepare for

3856
02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:36,000
you know how's that gonna change

3857
02:20:39,590 --> 02:20:37,680
humanity with these beings coming here

3858
02:20:42,950 --> 02:20:39,600
and their technology and

3859
02:20:44,550 --> 02:20:42,960
everybody starts understanding and just

3860
02:20:46,230 --> 02:20:44,560
knowing that you know we're not alone

3861
02:20:49,190 --> 02:20:46,240
here and they're coming here and they're

3862
02:20:50,630 --> 02:20:49,200
doing different things and you know

3863
02:20:51,429 --> 02:20:50,640
what's not going to do for humanity

3864
02:20:54,790 --> 02:20:51,439
right like what's

3865
02:20:55,990 --> 02:20:54,800
what's next for us right you know where

3866
02:20:59,030 --> 02:20:56,000
are we going here

3867
02:21:01,510 --> 02:20:59,040
like and i think it's been going on for

3868
02:21:02,710 --> 02:21:01,520
a very long time and they've probably

3869
02:21:05,750 --> 02:21:02,720
been quite

3870
02:21:07,750 --> 02:21:05,760
influential you know apparently in the

3871
02:21:09,590 --> 02:21:07,760
40s they became more active and whatnot

3872
02:21:11,110 --> 02:21:09,600
like disabling nuclear power plants all

3873
02:21:14,150 --> 02:21:11,120
that stuff but like

3874
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:14,160
know nuclear weapons and all that uh but

3875
02:21:17,910 --> 02:21:16,000
um i think they've always been here like

3876
02:21:21,190 --> 02:21:17,920
the the dogon tribe of

3877
02:21:23,030 --> 02:21:21,200
western maui they were asked how they

3878
02:21:25,349 --> 02:21:23,040
how they built their homes inside of the

3879
02:21:27,190 --> 02:21:25,359
mountain and they're very high up

3880
02:21:29,270 --> 02:21:27,200
and difficult to do like no scaffolding

3881
02:21:31,429 --> 02:21:29,280
kind of thing and uh

3882
02:21:33,110 --> 02:21:31,439
he said oh we didn't build those the men

3883
02:21:34,630 --> 02:21:33,120
of wisdom built them

3884
02:21:36,550 --> 02:21:34,640
and they left and they're going to come

3885
02:21:40,070 --> 02:21:36,560
back here

3886
02:21:43,270 --> 02:21:40,080
and they also say they're from the ninth

3887
02:21:45,110 --> 02:21:43,280
moon or the night planet of uh saturn

3888
02:21:47,670 --> 02:21:45,120
and they have a tool that shows their

3889
02:21:50,070 --> 02:21:47,680
orbit it's like this

3890
02:21:52,230 --> 02:21:50,080
it's almost like this round it's a

3891
02:21:55,429 --> 02:21:52,240
ground circle with like uh

3892
02:21:57,190 --> 02:21:55,439
almost like a crosses you know across

3893
02:21:59,750 --> 02:21:57,200
and it's like curled to the right it

3894
02:22:01,830 --> 02:21:59,760
shows like it's orbit kind of thing

3895
02:22:03,590 --> 02:22:01,840
and uh they jump up and down and they go

3896
02:22:05,670 --> 02:22:03,600
on this trance and

3897
02:22:06,710 --> 02:22:05,680
probably start you know having ascension

3898
02:22:07,990 --> 02:22:06,720
or

3899
02:22:09,990 --> 02:22:08,000
going into altered states of

3900
02:22:13,429 --> 02:22:10,000
consciousness where they can

3901
02:22:14,469 --> 02:22:13,439
you know i don't know work on their

3902
02:22:17,349 --> 02:22:14,479
spirit or

3903
02:22:18,230 --> 02:22:17,359
contact these beings or or just rituals

3904
02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:18,240
they were taught

3905
02:22:23,110 --> 02:22:21,280
or their tradition or you know

3906
02:22:24,469 --> 02:22:23,120
just incredible you know the ancient

3907
02:22:26,389 --> 02:22:24,479
civilizations are all about that's

3908
02:22:28,870 --> 02:22:26,399
another thing to look into

3909
02:22:30,710 --> 02:22:28,880
yeah there's orthodox right you know

3910
02:22:31,830 --> 02:22:30,720
ancient civilization there's unorthodox

3911
02:22:35,670 --> 02:22:31,840
and we should look at

3912
02:22:38,150 --> 02:22:35,680
every angle you know there's um

3913
02:22:39,270 --> 02:22:38,160
there's definitely a um there's

3914
02:22:41,910 --> 02:22:39,280
definitely a point

3915
02:22:43,030 --> 02:22:41,920
you know to all of it and just to you

3916
02:22:45,190 --> 02:22:43,040
know i hate to do it in

3917
02:22:46,710 --> 02:22:45,200
injustice of not to get into it right

3918
02:22:47,910 --> 02:22:46,720
now because that would be probably be

3919
02:22:50,710 --> 02:22:47,920
another hour

3920
02:22:52,389 --> 02:22:50,720
but um you know it's it's it's it all

3921
02:22:55,750 --> 02:22:52,399
comes down to

3922
02:22:57,750 --> 02:22:55,760
um each one individually understanding

3923
02:23:00,309 --> 02:22:57,760
ourselves i know there's always the

3924
02:23:02,150 --> 02:23:00,319
the the stories of you know

3925
02:23:04,870 --> 02:23:02,160
extraterrestrials out there

3926
02:23:06,710 --> 02:23:04,880
uh events and happenings out to there

3927
02:23:07,670 --> 02:23:06,720
you know and we always think that it's

3928
02:23:09,750 --> 02:23:07,680
all going to happen

3929
02:23:10,710 --> 02:23:09,760
irregardless whether we're there to

3930
02:23:13,590 --> 02:23:10,720
observe or not

3931
02:23:14,710 --> 02:23:13,600
but the fact that that we're here it has

3932
02:23:16,469 --> 02:23:14,720
a lot to do with

3933
02:23:18,070 --> 02:23:16,479
each and every single one of us

3934
02:23:21,910 --> 02:23:18,080
individually you know

3935
02:23:24,070 --> 02:23:21,920
and um it's it's really weird you know

3936
02:23:26,230 --> 02:23:24,080
regarding all kinds of all kinds of

3937
02:23:28,230 --> 02:23:26,240
things like all the events in my life

3938
02:23:29,590 --> 02:23:28,240
you know uh uh what some of the

3939
02:23:31,910 --> 02:23:29,600
experience that i had

3940
02:23:33,270 --> 02:23:31,920
that were basically happened entirely

3941
02:23:36,309 --> 02:23:33,280
just for my experience

3942
02:23:37,429 --> 02:23:36,319
for me you have to to get in a lesson to

3943
02:23:39,510 --> 02:23:37,439
understand something

3944
02:23:41,590 --> 02:23:39,520
out of it you know and that was so weird

3945
02:23:42,389 --> 02:23:41,600
because i always thought well this was a

3946
02:23:44,309 --> 02:23:42,399
random event

3947
02:23:46,230 --> 02:23:44,319
that had occurred and i happened to

3948
02:23:47,830 --> 02:23:46,240
witness it and then everyone else moved

3949
02:23:51,030 --> 02:23:47,840
on and i moved on but

3950
02:23:54,710 --> 02:23:51,040
it wasn't it was a staged play you know

3951
02:23:56,309 --> 02:23:54,720
galactic you know play for me to witness

3952
02:23:58,309 --> 02:23:56,319
and learn a lesson from it

3953
02:23:59,990 --> 02:23:58,319
and you know have all these willing

3954
02:24:02,870 --> 02:24:00,000
participants of it

3955
02:24:04,790 --> 02:24:02,880
and it says this ongoing constant

3956
02:24:07,190 --> 02:24:04,800
experience upon experience

3957
02:24:08,950 --> 02:24:07,200
and learning and relearning you know

3958
02:24:12,230 --> 02:24:08,960
from every angle possible

3959
02:24:14,070 --> 02:24:12,240
so anyway i'm sorry i hate to be

3960
02:24:16,150 --> 02:24:14,080
you know cryptic about it or not getting

3961
02:24:17,110 --> 02:24:16,160
into too much detail which i definitely

3962
02:24:19,910 --> 02:24:17,120
can but

3963
02:24:21,190 --> 02:24:19,920
i'm i'm thinking about you know shutting

3964
02:24:23,030 --> 02:24:21,200
it down for tonight

3965
02:24:24,950 --> 02:24:23,040
you know i'm getting a bit tired but i

3966
02:24:25,349 --> 02:24:24,960
do appreciate you neil for calling in

3967
02:24:27,110 --> 02:24:25,359
maybe

3968
02:24:28,630 --> 02:24:27,120
next time call in a bit earlier usually

3969
02:24:31,990 --> 02:24:28,640
i started seven so

3970
02:24:34,309 --> 02:24:32,000
love to continue the conversation

3971
02:24:35,590 --> 02:24:34,319
yeah it's uh i just hope you have a

3972
02:24:37,110 --> 02:24:35,600
great evening thank you so much for

3973
02:24:40,550 --> 02:24:37,120
having me on your show and

3974
02:24:42,790 --> 02:24:40,560
i just uh i send out uh my love

3975
02:24:44,469 --> 02:24:42,800
my love to everybody and to give them

3976
02:24:46,389 --> 02:24:44,479
they want to check out c5

3977
02:24:47,670 --> 02:24:46,399
uh go ahead and or just practice

3978
02:24:50,790 --> 02:24:47,680
meditation

3979
02:24:52,630 --> 02:24:50,800
or breathing and uh i wish and all the

3980
02:24:54,389 --> 02:24:52,640
greatest blessings to everybody and uh

3981
02:24:56,230 --> 02:24:54,399
have a good night

3982
02:24:57,990 --> 02:24:56,240
niels yeah thank you please log in next

3983
02:24:58,790 --> 02:24:58,000
time and then we can continue chatting

3984
02:25:02,070 --> 02:24:58,800
okay

3985
02:25:04,469 --> 02:25:02,080
so um all right well

3986
02:25:05,910 --> 02:25:04,479
thank you all thanks everyone that that

3987
02:25:08,230 --> 02:25:05,920
stuck around for this long

3988
02:25:10,070 --> 02:25:08,240
i appreciate it i hope you got something

3989
02:25:11,590 --> 02:25:10,080
out of it like i said wednesday's just

3990
02:25:12,469 --> 02:25:11,600
basically just me hanging out with you

3991
02:25:14,150 --> 02:25:12,479
guys so

3992
02:25:15,910 --> 02:25:14,160
i apologize if it wasn't a bit

3993
02:25:17,030 --> 02:25:15,920
structured for you like an interview

3994
02:25:20,309 --> 02:25:17,040
usually is

3995
02:25:21,510 --> 02:25:20,319
um and kind of that it's all over the

3996
02:25:23,270 --> 02:25:21,520
place but i guess that's what

3997
02:25:25,030 --> 02:25:23,280
conversations generally are

3998
02:25:26,550 --> 02:25:25,040
you know you remember this and you go

3999
02:25:28,309 --> 02:25:26,560
into it and then you go back to the

4000
02:25:30,950 --> 02:25:28,319
original point so

4001
02:25:31,670 --> 02:25:30,960
um if you i think are okay with that

4002
02:25:34,230 --> 02:25:31,680
idea

4003
02:25:36,309 --> 02:25:34,240
i hope you find this entertaining enough

4004
02:25:37,830 --> 02:25:36,319
and uh but i do have a lot of

4005
02:25:40,230 --> 02:25:37,840
interviews that are structured and to

4006
02:25:41,110 --> 02:25:40,240
the point and getting information out

4007
02:25:43,750 --> 02:25:41,120
there so

4008
02:25:45,349 --> 02:25:43,760
i hope you don't mind just having one

4009
02:25:48,469 --> 02:25:45,359
little thing in your life that's

4010
02:25:49,590 --> 02:25:48,479
unorganized so uh thank you all again

4011
02:25:52,870 --> 02:25:49,600
for tuning in

4012
02:25:53,270 --> 02:25:52,880
on friday i'm going to have sally she

4013
02:25:55,830 --> 02:25:53,280
does

4014
02:25:58,070 --> 02:25:55,840
numerology so i hope you tune in she's

4015
02:26:00,710 --> 02:25:58,080
probably going to

4016
02:26:01,429 --> 02:26:00,720
spend during the q a spend some time if

4017
02:26:04,630 --> 02:26:01,439
you give her

4018
02:26:07,110 --> 02:26:04,640
a name and birth date to do some

4019
02:26:07,830 --> 02:26:07,120
just a quick numbers reading she does it

4020
02:26:09,910 --> 02:26:07,840
also

4021
02:26:11,270 --> 02:26:09,920
um on her website she would have some

4022
02:26:13,270 --> 02:26:11,280
information if you want to go into

4023
02:26:16,230 --> 02:26:13,280
greater details for her to

4024
02:26:17,030 --> 02:26:16,240
um break down your numbers and and give

4025
02:26:18,870 --> 02:26:17,040
you some

4026
02:26:20,309 --> 02:26:18,880
some information if you're interested in

4027
02:26:22,550 --> 02:26:20,319
that i think she does those

4028
02:26:24,070 --> 02:26:22,560
on an hourly basis well i think they're

4029
02:26:26,630 --> 02:26:24,080
called readings i don't know

4030
02:26:27,190 --> 02:26:26,640
she might correct me on friday but

4031
02:26:30,389 --> 02:26:27,200
definitely

4032
02:26:33,429 --> 02:26:30,399
a friday at 7 p.m central time

4033
02:26:36,150 --> 02:26:33,439
we're going to be on live so you can

4034
02:26:37,590 --> 02:26:36,160
log in again to telegram to listen and

4035
02:26:40,630 --> 02:26:37,600
when the q a happens

4036
02:26:42,469 --> 02:26:40,640
or starts you can just raise your hand

4037
02:26:44,950 --> 02:26:42,479
i will add you to my queue and then you

4038
02:26:47,830 --> 02:26:44,960
can ask a question directly or

4039
02:26:49,429 --> 02:26:47,840
if you're in your chat simply put the

4040
02:26:51,510 --> 02:26:49,439
three little stars there

4041
02:26:53,270 --> 02:26:51,520
and ask a question that way i know it's

4042
02:26:56,630 --> 02:26:53,280
directly directed towards

4043
02:26:58,230 --> 02:26:56,640
the guest so thank you all very much